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13-05-2011, 04:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern California
Boat: 1979 Union 36'
Posts: 261
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Re: Antifoul Paint
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13-05-2011, 05:47
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Boat: Quorning Dragonfly 1200
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Re: Antifoul Paint
I don't know what's in Roundup -- I try to stay away from stuff that toxic.
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14-05-2011, 13:01
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#18
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Angra dos Reis, Brazil
Boat: Catamaran, FP 40 ft
Posts: 184
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Thanks for this info Ausaviator, but as i was an agronomist in another life, i would think that this weed killer soon will be washed out in the water and loose its effects, however it is still worth a try i guess...
Best rgds
Pieter
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14-05-2011, 13:43
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: jacksonville FL
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Posts: 47
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Ceyenne pepper added to the paint does a failry nice job of helping with the barnacles and won't get you in trouble with the greenies. last haul out I did one hull with cayenne, and one without. Although each hull still had growth over time you could tell a difference between to the hulls. In the yard right now and just about to apply a bottom coat. fascinated by idea of using round up.
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14-05-2011, 13:46
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Easton, MD
Boat: 15' Catboat, Bristol 35.5
Posts: 3,090
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Roundup only works if sprayed on green leaves or growth. (photosynthesis portion of the plant) If poured in the ground on the roots, it will not harm the plant or weed. Therefore I would speculate that it would not prevent bottom grouth.
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14-05-2011, 16:14
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 961
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Hi Pieter,
How much antifould did you end up using?
I think it's a very good idea to seal the hull of your Lavezzi, these boats are known to have problems with blistering.
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14-05-2011, 16:33
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 906
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Re: Antifoul Paint
It's worth putting the pepper, roundup and anything else in there if a. They don't affect the paint and b. You aren't worried about the environment :-)
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14-05-2011, 16:42
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Quote:
Originally Posted by ausaviator
It's worth putting the pepper, roundup and anything else in there if a. They don't affect the paint and b. You aren't worried about the environment :-)
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Just don't tell anyone, there are big fines in NSW, Australia and I imagine the rest of the world for doing this sort of thing.
By the way what ratio do you use?
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14-05-2011, 17:33
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 906
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Re: Antifoul Paint
I live by the philosophy of my glass only being half full.
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14-05-2011, 18:19
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 961
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Oh yes, but I believe a pessimist is just an optimist with experience.LOL
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28-05-2011, 16:27
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#26
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Angra dos Reis, Brazil
Boat: Catamaran, FP 40 ft
Posts: 184
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Esteemed forum members,
Just a report regarding last weeks haul out.... Over here at location, to get a boat on the hard is a very expensive operation... I received a quotation by a warf, including labour, paint etc etc for Us$ 4375 (Using AkzoNobel International paint). This i politely declined... Then there was this other haul out set up... truly a very primitive situation, but as i had no other choice i took this and had to pay Us$ 1125 + Us$ 225/day.... I paid Us$ 125 per gallon of antifoul paint (Renner, braz brand, good quality). I purchased 3 gallons, but unfortunately that was barely enough for 2 layers, i wished i had purchased a total of 6 gallons to get a good job done (of course, in the Angra dos Reis area, there was no outlet or representative of Renner so i couldnt purchase more...)
Anyway, next time i guess i will first clean the hull completely in the water, then beach her, and get the paint job done...For reasons beyond my comprehension, all of this work is way too expensive here in Brazil (note: on the warf (looking like a ship grave yard...) no staircase/ladder available for a safe exit to the hard...on the up side, got a lot of streching and work out done during this time..)
All the best,
Pieter Kommerij
SV Onda Boa
www.luminacharters.com.br
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29-05-2011, 07:37
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#27
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris
Posts: 4,629
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Lady
Just don't tell anyone, there are big fines in NSW, Australia and I imagine the rest of the world for doing this sort of thing.
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Source? Not having a go - genuine question.
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29-05-2011, 18:37
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 961
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factor
Source? Not having a go - genuine question.
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A NSW Maritime officer showed me a NSW government bulletin which stated as he explained that it is an offence to put any type of pollution into NSW waters.
I was asking about cleaning the bottom of my boat, basically feeding the fish with the growth I was taking off.
I know everyone does this but it’s still illegal in NSW, don’t ask me to justify this law.
And yes he told me there are large fines for cleaning your boat in the water.
I know antifouling does this but apparently it’s approved.
So you can imagine what they would say if you started using highly toxic chemicals in your antifouling.
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29-05-2011, 19:05
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#29
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,507
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Last bottom job took 3 gallons. I got 2 coats, and about 5 leading edges. This time I will use 2 colors, so I know when I am getting thin on paint.......i2f
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30-05-2011, 06:50
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 4,369
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Re: Antifoul Paint
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeannius
Funnily enough my 435 is 44 ft and the 465 Privilege is 'usually' 49ft. I say usually because there asre a few basic 465s around that are 46 ft but the majority of them are the Easy Cruise version which is 49ft
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Jeannius, Please explain why an Easy Cruise is longer than a basic version. Also what is different about the EZC from standard? Thanks BOB
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