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01-09-2014, 10:09
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#121
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: We, Clarksburg/Cat, Galesville, Maryland, USA
Boat: Alpha 42 #3
Posts: 67
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
Hey smackdaddy and other interested parties, you can see some photos with the new anchor roller/chain installation on the Alpha Blog. The photos are of the mast/rigging installation but the roller and chain port are visible. See Alpha 42 - Hull 4. Masting - Aeroyacht LTD
Photos 8-10 are best. This boat is Sale #4 and will soon be in the water for sea trials and then in the Caribbean for charter this winter. We'll be close behind.
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01-09-2014, 21:32
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#122
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Connecticut
Boat: Many
Posts: 105
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
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Originally Posted by FLLCatsailor
Have they launched hull #2 yet???
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To save time, they are building on the bottom of the ocean.
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01-09-2014, 21:35
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#123
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Connecticut
Boat: Many
Posts: 105
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
My vote for the ugliest catamaran in the last 30 years.
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01-09-2014, 22:48
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#124
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
just checked out the alpha specs
Is the mainsail really only 569 square feet? seems small for the mast height and displacement???
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14-09-2014, 19:02
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#125
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
I guess its true then. My 42 foot cat weighs nearly 2 tonnes less, has a smaller mast and similar main size. Similar displacement boats to the alpha have around 15% more main. Can't see how this can be a performance cruiser unless they put a bigger main on her. If your planning on building one of these I would be asking the question.
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15-09-2014, 02:30
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#126
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 3,650
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
Such is the way I the world I seems barra. The new lagoon 39 is about the same size as the 380 but 4 tonne heavier and same rig size! In fact it's a tonne heavier than the 400 which has a larger rig. At this rate production cats will look like Croatian gullets in a few years with a pissy little rig and 20 Berths to make the customers feel like they are sailing or that 5 masted windsurfer cruise ship we passed yesterday. I checked its specs a couple of years ago out of curiosity. Speed with motors, 10.5 k, speed with motor and full sail,11.5k
But it was built for the passengers with the romantic notion of sailing opposed to being on a ship ...
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15-09-2014, 02:53
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#127
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
Yeah Monte weve seen that "sailing" cruise ship too in the Adriatic and again in the Agean - either it gets around or theres a few of them. Saw the brochure too - apparently its the ecofriendly option for would be cruisers worried about their footprint from burning all that diesel
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15-09-2014, 04:09
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#128
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris
Posts: 4,859
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
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Originally Posted by monte
Such is the way I the world I seems barra. The new lagoon 39 is about the same size as the 380 but 4 tonne heavier and same rig size! In fact it's a tonne heavier than the 400 which has a larger rig. At this rate production cats will look like Croatian gullets in a few years with a pissy little rig and 20 Berths to make the customers feel like they are sailing
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Some will, but not all
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15-09-2014, 04:29
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#129
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Long Island's North Shore
Boat: 1997 Catalina 42 MkII
Posts: 165
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
I spoke to Hank over the weekend and asked him if they ever found the boat. He said that the boat was going to sink after they left it - no way was it going to stay afloat. He smiled at the "armchair sailors" and the comments that have been online and said that if there was anything else to do, they would have done it. We talked about him losing steering on our boat when he delivered it (autopilot still worked though) and how that was no big deal but what happened on the Alpha 42 definitely was. I'd use him again in a heartbeat and it was good to see him!! Even though he lives near us, we haven't seen him in a bunch of years.
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20-09-2014, 11:18
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#131
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cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,132
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
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Originally Posted by cruisingkrol
Hey smackdaddy and other interested parties, you can see some photos with the new anchor roller/chain installation on the Alpha Blog. The photos are of the mast/rigging installation but the roller and chain port are visible. See Alpha 42 - Hull 4. Masting - Aeroyacht LTD
Photos 8-10 are best. This boat is Sale #4 and will soon be in the water for sea trials and then in the Caribbean for charter this winter. We'll be close behind.
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Well, I'm not seeing a whole lot different in the two models. The sprit structure looks to be basically the same as the original - and though I don't see the anchor windlass on the new boat yet, I'm also not seeing how and where the chain is being hidden:
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05-10-2014, 17:59
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#132
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Great South Bay, Long Island, NY, USA
Boat: TPI Lagoon 35ccc Catamaran designed by Morrelli & Melvin
Posts: 219
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
Here is a little better picture of the bow of the Alpha 42 Lucy2.
No chain on the trampoline.
Marshall
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06-10-2014, 07:55
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#133
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
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Originally Posted by SearenitySail
Here is a little better picture of the bow of the Alpha 42 Lucy2.
No chain on the trampoline.
Marshall
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If the deficiencies were not thoroughly reworked... This boat should probably be renamed...
LunacyToo?
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Mai Tai's fix everything...
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15-11-2014, 20:47
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#134
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: We, Clarksburg/Cat, Galesville, Maryland, USA
Boat: Alpha 42 #3
Posts: 67
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
A thoroughly re-worked Alpha 42 #2 (Lucy2) made Tortola on the 9th. Serious weather on the voyage. Skipper said she handled the storm conditions beautifully... surfing down the seas at 17+knots. Not me, not if I can help it.
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10-08-2015, 16:46
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#135
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Boat: Seaward 22
Posts: 131
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Re: Alpha 42 Designer's Rebuttal
This catamaran looks a lot like the Gunboat 55, hull one one went bust too.
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