Yet another 1st time buyer question

[Capt Andy]

These are all really good points and many thanks for the replies. He says he's selling because he is buying a larger live aboard. (I no longer ask why owners are selling. If an owner is selling because of ongoing problems with a boat I don't expect them to be upfront about the problems when trying to sell.) $17K is too much and as others have pointed out the strut may just be the most obvious big ticket item to repair. The deck also have several areas covered with EVA foam which makes me wonder what is the condition of the deck below that and can it be assessed? I'm thinking I'll not make an offer at this point and see if it sells. Get an estimate on a strut repair and in a month if it's still up for sale make a low offer if i don't find something else. Or wait till end of season and see if any COVID boats come back on the market.

[joelhemington]

Originally Posted by Caleb_Grey

Whats the reason for selling after only 1 year?

Apparently said he wanted to move up to a bigger boat but I'm thinking the PO finally realized it was more work than he wanted to tackle and is hoping to off it without too much loss. For the OP's first boat, this one smells like a heart breaker to me.

[PJS]

Originally Posted by sail sfbay

Ball park price depends on where you are located and whether you plan to do the work yourself. I would budget $1000-2000 for the repairs if they done by a boatyard and with a quote you can request a "repair allowance" from the Seller IF you already have a signed purchase agreement, otherwise consider offering a lower price. The cosmetic needs, like a weathered deck, and bottom painting is routine maintenance is on the Buyer.

I assume you have looked at a lot of other similar sailboats and feel $17K is a fair price in your market.

$1,000 to $2,000 budget for repairs at a boat yard?? Man, I need to have my work done there...then again, maybe not!
Typical haul out is $300 to $400 plus the daily layover rate if you're doing the work. For the amount of work that needs to be done that will be easily $1,500...
I wouldn't touch a 45 year old boat with those issues and the unknown's.... a $15 to $17k boat will end up costing you >$25k even before you get it in the water and start to find the secondary issues.
If you are serious about the boat, have a respectable marine repair shop look at it and give you an estimate. I think that will make your decision for you.

[Knotical]

Originally Posted by joelhemington

I'm thinking the PO finally realized it was more work than he wanted to tackle and is hoping to off it without too much loss

That’s what I thought, reason for my initial question.

[Caleb_Grey]

Originally Posted by Knotical

That’s what I thought, reason for my initial question.

thats why i asked it again. The rest of your post is spot on too, softness around deck hardware and chainplates?
RUN,

[Capt Andy]

Just to clarify, the survey said "Increased moisture which should be monitored" not soft decks. But yeah, there are too many issues with this boat.

[rexposeidon]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Skip this boat and read this before you go look at another.
Marine Survey 101, pre-survey inspection

Amazing link thanks for posting!

[sail sfbay]

Originally Posted by Capt Andy

[FONT=&quot].........survey he had done......shaft strut.....needed replacement, scattered ¾” blisters on hull, small scattered dry voids in deck and cabin top, spots of elevated moisture in side decks around chain plates, bow and some deck hardware........

You are lucky to have this information prior to making an offer, since these repairs are often not discovered until after a haul-out and survey at which point you have the option to request a "repair allowance". Have you had a chance to obtain boatyard or qualified contractor to make these repairs and if so what were they? Once you have that cost you can make an informed decision on what price to offer, if you still want it, prior to signing a purchase agreement and spending money on a haul-out and survey, which discover additional costly repairs.