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17-11-2016, 12:23
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#106
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by KJThomas
Why would you sail at three knots when you can motor at seven. On a multihull, however we can sail at seven or more.
Often wondered why keel boats have sails. Decoration?
Most keel boat sailors around our way give up and buy a launch as they get older.
I like poking fun at them
And the one's who hide behind an island and motor when we pass them doing 11 knots to wibdward.
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Troll.
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A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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17-11-2016, 12:49
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#107
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Registered User
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Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Boat: Bristol 27 #335
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
I see many, many monohulls around here, but nearly 100% of the time.... motoring, sometimes with sails raised. Why is that?
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Old full keel monohulls don't point worth a crap especially the short ones with shallow draft. Mine has a 20' water line (19.75') and 4' draft
With the engine running just above idle, you can point way better. It comes in handy when you need to get somewhere and are on the clock.
If you aren't on the clock and have plenty of time, they sail fine.
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17-11-2016, 13:06
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#108
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by thomm225
Old full keel monohulls don't point worth a crap especially the short ones with shallow draft. Mine has a 20' water line (19.75') and 4' draft
With the engine running just above idle, you can point way better. It comes in handy when you need to get somewhere and are on the clock.
If you aren't on the clock and have plenty of time, they sail fine.
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Mine fits that description, however she does point better than a Lagoon 380  I don't know about the rest
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17-11-2016, 13:57
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#109
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Location: Port Ludlow Wa
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
Multis look best with tiki torches and grass roofs and when pulled up on the beach.
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17-11-2016, 14:58
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#110
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
Do you take the bus or pack a lunch?
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17-11-2016, 15:51
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#111
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
I have a class C motorhome, not a Class A...
Should I try my asymmetric spin on it? That way I won't need a pole.
I _do_ have a old CQR I removed from my boat that does a fantastic job of holding the motorhome in place. It needs to be in "park" or the anchor won't work. Maybe I should try that on the boat? The mantus seems to hold pretty well with the boat transmission in neutral.
I also have a old IBM selectric I'm trying to turn into a radar, but not having much success so far.
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17-11-2016, 16:10
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#112
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Location: Central California
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
If you're always "on the clock," why have a sailboat? I've sails on my motorboat, but it is an anachronism from my past life.
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17-11-2016, 16:18
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#113
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
No OP. The monos I sailed extensively, a sloop with full keel and a cutter with a full keel only two-feet deep, sailed wonderfully to windward. What's your problem?
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17-11-2016, 16:36
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#114
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by markpierce
No OP. The monos I sailed extensively, a sloop with full keel and a cutter with a full keel only two-feet deep, sailed wonderfully to windward. What's your problem?
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Operator error.
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17-11-2016, 16:52
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#115
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
You either tack or use the motor.
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17-11-2016, 20:17
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#116
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Location: cruising SW Pacific
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
No OP. The monos I sailed extensively, a sloop with full keel and a cutter with a full keel only two-feet deep, sailed wonderfully to windward. What's your problem?
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Awww, c'mon Mark... a full keel cutter with a draft of two feet, and it sails 'wonderfully to windward"?? Doesn't seem possible to me...
Jim
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17-11-2016, 21:18
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#117
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
If you can have an IBM selectric typewriter that works as a radar, you can have a shallow draft cutter that goes to windward.
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17-11-2016, 23:00
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#118
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by Polux
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(Mod edit for bad language. Next time we remove the post) You talk about misinformation then say this thread is older!!!!
What a comic you are!
I copy and pasted from the multihull thread to create the opening post of this one.
Just shows how fast cat's can sail. We can actually travel back in time!  
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18-11-2016, 03:32
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
You talk about misinformation then say this thread is older!!!!
What a comic you are!
I copy and pasted from the multihull thread to create the opening post of this one.
Just shows how fast cat's can sail. We can actually travel back in time!   
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Insulting and with bad manners as usual
Yes you are right, both threads were posted at about the same time, yours 2 days later than the other but my opinion remains, both are threads with a strong bias that goes mainly to the ones that created them.
Lots of misinformation on both of them mixed with good information but inflamatorie threads from the beginning, a bad idea, both of them.
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18-11-2016, 04:38
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#120
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Location: Hampton Roads, VA
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Re: Why do monohulls have sails?
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Originally Posted by markpierce
If you're always "on the clock," why have a sailboat?
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Because they are much more interesting to me than power boats and I've owned both. I have no real need to go 20 knots anymore on a sailboat or powerboat.
When I say " on the clock ", I'm talking 2 days to 2 weeks as in coastal cruising on the weekends or vacations.
Sometimes if the wind and tide isn't right, I'll motor sail (or motor if there's no wind) a bit to get back on a Sunday or the last vacation day.
This weekend it looks like a Saturday only run along the beach with the wind 12 knots SW. Should be perfect with temps in the lower 70's.
I expect to see lots of sailboats......some sailing others motoring and enjoying the day
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