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Old 16-11-2018, 23:28   #16
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I would for sure go for the 34. I think you can find a nice one in your budget range and for your plans, I think you will be glad to have the extra size over the Dana.
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Old 17-11-2018, 04:21   #17
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Mariah 31, can be found in the 30-45k range.
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Old 17-11-2018, 18:51   #18
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You are aware of not only the money but the sizes of the boats, right?

After your C30 a Flicka could seem claustrophobic to you, nice as they are.

Good luck.
This op is the same guy who,imo/e, denigrated the Montgomery 17 he used to own, before he bought the C30mk2 he is now also saying isn't a 'good enough boat'. Me thinks it's the sailor not the boat.

Just because the C30mk2 is a much larger boat all around then the M17, does not make the M17 any less of a boat. You bought the C30mk2 because you thought, or were told, buy a bigger boat to go places. Well wrong! An M17 finished the R2AK, and numerous sisterships have sailed far and wide, mine included! I sailed mine Coastally, Eastern Seaboard far and wide over 15,000 miles. I trusted that design with my Life and she never let me down. Out of the 17 boats I've owned since 1970, it is one that I personally enjoyed the most.

The older I get the less boat I want to maintain. Sage Marine now builds a similar lapstrake 17, in sloop or catboat rigs, but MUCH better quality & fit and finish imo/e than the Montgomery 17.

As far as Dana vs NS27? I'd take the Dana hands down, having put 2,500 miles, 1,000 of those offshore on one. I did 750 miles on a NS27 and did not like the cramped lack of beam below at all, and she sailed a lot more on her ear than the Dana. I'd buy the Dana with my money it's all there in a sweet package for a singlehander!

The Flicka would drive you crazy moving down in volume. You are now cursed having bought a 30ft because nothing less in volume will satisfy your sense of space below. An IP 31 will take you where ever you want to go if you have the skillset.

A quality built boat brand does not come cheap, even in today's world of good old classics. Quality holds its value for exactly the reason you are selling now, you don't trust the build quality to take you where you want to go. Throwing money at boats until you find the right one will cost you plenty. I suggest you pay your way crewing on boats that interest you and then buy the boat that feels right, not knee jerk 'somebody tell me what boat to buy to sail to xyz'. Sounds cold/maybe rude, but that's what I wished I was told/did back buying boats in years past. Lots of money spent fixing up the wrong boat to go places it never went. At least you are cutting your losses early before fixing up the right now boat.
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Old 17-11-2018, 22:18   #19

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Re: Which Pacific Seacraft

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As far as Dana vs NS27? I'd take the Dana hands down, having put 2,500 miles, 1,000 of those offshore on one. I did 750 miles on a NS27 and did not like the cramped lack of beam below at all, and she sailed a lot more on her ear than the Dana.
Interesting, Dana is only 7 inches wider, but I guess every inch counts. Norsea is 3.5' longer lwl though, surely that gives more space for at least tankage and storage?
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Old 18-11-2018, 07:42   #20
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Yes, but they are all too new/expensive in California for what I am looking for.
If you can find a Cape George 31 that suits it is a remarkable boat, and having owned a 36' can personally attest that they are great boats that would sail rings around your other choices.
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Old 18-11-2018, 07:48   #21
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sweet cape george 31 in HI on yachtworld.
some of the best times of my life were spent on a boat. it just took a long time to realize it.
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Old 18-11-2018, 08:37   #22
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Similar situation to mine however my budget was somewhat lower. I came across a PS Orion MK II that was really well equipped but neglected recently. So I am putting some money and elbow grease into it to bring it back up to snuff. If I had more money I would buy a 34 in a heartbeat and I think it maybe my step up boat someday. My Orion sails like a dream with a very comfortable motion, it however is NOT fast by any means. I think speed is something that is lacking in the entire PS line. My biggest challenge with the Orion (plan C) is storage and access. Some of the compartments and storage areas are so small I wonder why they put them in. The quarter berth access is nothing short of comical for an adult human. Other than that I love the boat! I am looking forward to sailing the Western North America Continent in my Orion so perhaps we will cross wakes in Alaska? Best of luck to you, but don't wait do it now, there may not be a tomorrow!
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Re: Which Pacific Seacraft

A few thoughts.

First how tall are you? I can stand in a PSC 34, but not a Dana.

Second- I got a job to move a PSC Dana about 40 miles. What I discovered is 1) It is NOT a tall guy boat. 2) it wants to cruise at less than 4 knots - even motor sailing. (do your own hull speed calcs) 3) the fit and finish of the interior is on a par with a Tartan or other high-end boat incredible. 4) at anchor I got caught in a nasty halyard slapping, sideways rain thunderstorm. Once I tied the halyards off to the shrouds, the little boat was very comfortable. Aside from the size, I would take that boat anywhere.

IMHO-check the PHRF for the boats. While not sacred, they are a good indicator of speed. Second, if you plan on owning the boat for a while, get the PSC34.

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