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15-06-2015, 07:15
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#136
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Couple more.
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15-06-2015, 07:40
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#137
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
I was privileged to do a couple deliveries in my youth on Bacchant. At 64' long with a less than 10' beam was a pretty amazing ride!.
During a refit in the eighties at Palmer Johnson a detached spade rudder was added, at which point the original keel hung rudder became a trim tab. If I recall correctly Dave Pedrick did the design work.
You can see the trim tab tiller, which used a tiller comb, below the rudder tiller in the second image.
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15-06-2015, 08:13
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#138
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
It's also nice with the tiller pilot turned on:
Morgan 30 Whimsy:
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15-06-2015, 16:07
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#139
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
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Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
Our boat has a method I've never seen anywhere else (although I'm sure it can't be unique). It involves the use of heavy bronze belaying pins
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The pic shows the two belaying pins that we move around as need be. |
<pedant mode>
A belaying pin is used for "belaying" i.e. fastening a running line.
They are just "pins" 
</pedant mode>
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15-06-2015, 16:14
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#140
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
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Originally Posted by Delancey
Couple more.
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Not sure of the model of that tiller pilot, but it sure looks better than my ST200.
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15-06-2015, 16:58
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#141
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Davis Instruments 2205 Tiller Tamer | eBay
Works as a way to hold the tiller in position or loosen up the clutch and it acts as a damper to resist sudden movements of the rudder.
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15-06-2015, 18:44
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#142
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
<pedant mode>
A belaying pin is used for "belaying" i.e. fastening a running line.
They are just "pins"
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15-06-2015, 21:18
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#143
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
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Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
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Too funny!
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17-06-2015, 16:54
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#144
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Here are three photos showing a boat (35ft) with what looks to me to be an "extreme" wheel for the size of boat.
In this case, I would prefer a tiller…. What about you?
Of course this is a racing boat.
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17-06-2015, 17:57
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#145
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
No in this case I would definitely prefer the wheel in a race. Been there. Needed that.
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17-06-2015, 18:03
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#146
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steady Hand
Here are three photos showing a boat (35ft) with what looks to me to be an "extreme" wheel for the size of boat.
In this case, I would prefer a tiller…. What about you?
Of course this is a racing boat. |
Steady, maybe the best thing for that boat would be an even bigger wheel with only two or three spokes. One can then move forward or aft of the wheel by walking through it  .
Steve
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17-06-2015, 18:09
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#147
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
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Originally Posted by Panope
Steady, maybe the best thing for that boat would be an even bigger wheel with only two or three spokes. One can then move forward or aft of the wheel by walking through it .
Steve |
The skipper never needs to move anywhere, and the FBW (Fricken Big Wheel) is a nice tuner, and can throw-about-come-about in a hurry.
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17-06-2015, 20:36
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#148
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Twin helms is the solution
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17-06-2015, 20:43
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#149
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Twin tillers will apparently satisfy some CF crewmates more 
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17-06-2015, 20:46
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#150
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Re: wheel vs. tiller steering
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panope
Steady, maybe the best thing for that boat would be an even bigger wheel with only two or three spokes. One can then move forward or aft of the wheel by walking through it .
Steve |
For some reason, that BIG wheel reminds me of a Ferris Wheel. 
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