Whats the problems with Hanse's

[caradow]

I have a friend who is new to cruising who asked me about the Quality of the Hanse's. I honestly could not tell him about any definitive issues. I did look at one years ago that was only a few years old and yet had multiple delam problems throughout the entire boat. But many newer boats have had these issues though maybe not as wide spread.
I did do a search here on CF but did not come up with anything.
Would appreciate anyone out there with valid reports on the quality of these vessels.

[GordMay]

Custom Search “Hanse”, on CF ➥ https://cse.google.com/cse?siteurl=w...&q=hanse&sa=Go

Including:

“Repairing hull damage on a Hanse”
➥ https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...se-246347.html

“Hanse 43 - Thoughts?”
➥ https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...hts-15377.html

See also: Hanse Yachts owners ➥ https://www.myhanse.com

[JPA Cate]

Lightly constructed.

Lack of cleats.

Lack of backing plates.

Ann

[Jim Cate]

Also aluminium rudder posts, which means no copper based antifoul paint on the rudder and nearby hull areas (strongly recommended by the folks who commission Hanse imports in Australia).

Jim

[boatman61]

Rudder system.. and that includes their Moody versions.

[boatpoker]

The "Ikea" of the boating world, poor structural support, thin hulls, masonite rather than marine ply ... all designed for the cheapest shiny boat they can shove out the door. I've seen areas of the hulls that can be flexed with moderate hand pressure due to lack of interior structure.

Here are a few findings from a recent 35' Hanse I surveyed ...

PS. Comments are numbered by relative sections of the report so are not consecutive.

[Chris 249]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

masonite rather than marine ply ..

OMG. Really?

When even Wikipedia notes that a material degrades when exposed to the elements who the heck would use it in a yacht? Where is it found?

I just looked up their website and I see they advertise that the keel grid is held on by a "bed of potent epoxy adhesive" which is an interesting way of admitting that they don't 'glass the grid to the hull, and that their engineering involves balanced rudders - a highly innovative design that was invented as recently as 1880 or so.

[barnakiel]

About same quality with Bava / Bene / etc. crowd.


Some Hanse used epoxies in hull construction - nice for less risk of osmosis.


Rudders and keel attachment area seem to be on the light side and there has been some fails - rudders falling off and hulls cracking on contact of the keel with an obstacle.


b.

[FlyingScot]

The ones I have seen are very shiny on the surface. The more you dig, the more you realize why they are cheaper.

[Island Time O25]

A cursery look at several boat shows revealed more build problems in their brand new boats than in my 45 year old one. I kid you not. Most doors had corners already delaminating, exposing IKEA quality of their build. Sharp corners everywhere, likely from designers and builders never having been at sea prior to assembly. Or afterward for that matter. Everything about it looked and felt cheap and unseaworthy.

[Alanvkrasno]

I’ve just acquired a 2015 Hanse 455 having previously owned a Hanse 400e I had a full survey which revealed very little of note. She is a very solid boat in my opinion. Well laid out. Obviously a compromise between living space and storage. She sail’s beautifully and feels secure in strong winds and short seas. I know a number of them that are doing ocean crossings. It depends what you are looking for but I think they offer great design and comfort and safety. Probably best to go on the FB group with comments from actual owners rather than listening to sneery people with no first hand experience I’d say.

[aqfishing]

Originally Posted by caradow

I have a friend who is new to cruising who asked me about the Quality of the Hanse's. I honestly could not tell him about any definitive issues. I did look at one years ago that was only a few years old and yet had multiple delam problems throughout the entire boat. But many newer boats have had these issues though maybe not as wide spread.
I did do a search here on CF but did not come up with anything.
Would appreciate anyone out there with valid reports on the quality of these vessels.

They only have one hull…

[SVRocinante]

I can’t speak for newer Hansa versions, but our 2007 Hanse 400e is a solid boat. We purchased it new and it is still going strong. She’s been sailed as far north as Casco Bay in Maine and as far south as Key West in Florida. We’ve sailed through gale force winds on two occasions, endured Tropical Storm winds at anchor on 3 occasions. 12’ seas along the NJ coast and short square waves in Buzzards bay, plenty of thunderstorms, squalls and Nor’easters over the years.. We’ve been about 50nm offshore, but have not done any ocean crossings, so can’t speak to that. No repairs in all these years other than fixing the head twice. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

[Na Mara]

I owned a 370e before my present boat. It had Its good points and its bad points.

Good points.

Large interior, for its size, that was well laid out.

Direct rod linkage for steering.

Oversized keel bolts

Sailed like a witch all points downwind.

Relatively cheap.

Bad points

Structural interior hull liner (until you ground the boat for the first time you won’t understand just how bad a design feature that is but I urge anyone buying a boat to steer clear of any design that has this. Even quality boats with this feature should be avoided.

Poor upwind ability. Beamy lightweight hulls with u forward sections are not meant for cruising if you ever plan to go to weather.

Undersized engine.

Cheap and cheerful interior construction and sail handling systems.

If it tells you anything, I sold her after 5 years and bought her antithesis. That antithesis I will own until I die.

[Fstwave V]

I've owned 14 yachts, one of which is a Hanse 470e (2010). Done around 8k miles in her, Biscay etc.
Finishing quality seems higher than Beneteau / Jeanneau and I've no complaints so far.
I'd go so far as to say that many of the fittings are custom boat standard of quality and the wiring is excellent.
This seems to be borne out by very reasonable insurance premiums too.
I'd also add that the Dealership support for spares / information etc is streets ahead (UK). Big shout out for Inspiration Marine.