What is the best boat to buy?

[Kenomac]

An Oyster 53.

[Training Wheels]

Did you try Ventura Harbor Boatyard?

[Training Wheels]

Also, Ventura Port District has mast up storage, but don’t know if they would have room for a C37. A C31 probably wouldn’t be an issue.

[Training Wheels]

There’s an F 33 for sale on yacht world that would fit the bill!

[Augi]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

An Oyster 53.

My budget for a new or used boat including any repairs and refit is $300K. Plus the cost to store and maintain an Oyster 53 is beyond my budget.

This discussion is about finding the best balance between performance(fun) and comfort for the intended use for no more than $300K upfront and for reasonable costs to store and maintain.

I don't need the comfort of an Oyster 53 because I will be on board 1-2 weeks at a time 6-7 times a year.

It very well could be the best approach is avoid the Baja Bash and ship or trailer the boat over land.

[Stu Jackson]

For your budget, buy two boats: one for California and one for Cabo. Done. Save a LOT of grief and time.

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

For your budget, buy two boats: one for California and one for Cabo. Done. Save a LOT of grief and time.

I agree, that’s a great idea!

[Training Wheels]

Third that, plenty of inexpensive places to keep boats on the hard in Mexico.

[Augi]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

For your budget, buy two boats: one for California and one for Cabo. Done. Save a LOT of grief and time.

That is a possibility. However, having two boats is kinda like having two wives. One is a enough.

Maybe a wife and a mistress would be workable. For example one of the fast, planing, flat bottom boats I have been looking at for sailing the Channel Islands, and a smaller Corsair good for day sailing or the most sleeping with her for a couple of nights here and there while sailing the Sea of Cortez a week or two at a time.

If I only have to take the mast down and put it up once a year, plus I am dry storing the boat with mast up on its own trailer anyway, and I have a pro haul the trailer and boat from south to north as needed, one boat can work and not have to do the Baja Bash unless I want to.

[Mal Reynolds]

Too bad you missed this one: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...j-133-3256723/

[Augi]

Originally Posted by Mal Reynolds

Too bad you missed this one: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...j-133-3256723/

She is a beauty!

[Don C L]

Have you considered any of the Bill Lee boats? Santa Cruz 40 or 50? Or Olson 40? Whatever you get, can I catch a ride sometime??

[Augi]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Have you considered any of the Bill Lee boats? Santa Cruz 40 or 50? Or Olson 40? Whatever you get, can I catch a ride sometime??

I have not looked at any of those. I will check them all out. Thanks for suggesting.

Yes. I will be looking for crew out of Channel Islands Harbor. I will be flying in to sail for 1-2 weeks at a time in Channel Islands National Park, 6 or 7 times a year.

[Don C L]

Probably too small for your tastes, but I am pretty sure you could store an Olson 30, or maybe bigger/longer, on a trailer at the Boat Yard in Channel Islands.
https://tbyci.com/dry-slips/

[Augi]

Originally Posted by Augi

What is the best boat to buy per the following parameters:

1. Budget of $300K(or less), including refit or repairs if buying used boat. Will sell boat after 5 years, so buying a boat that will depreciate less is a plus and cost less to own is a plus.

2. Boat will be based at Channel Islands Harbor, Oxnard, Ca, to have easy access to sail the Channel islands National Park a week or two at a time.

3. Every other year will move the boat to La Paz, Mx and back. For sure I will sail the boat south and is a plus is if the boat is comfortable enough and, stout enough to handle the trip north including if conditions dictate the best route is sailing enough west with wind on the beam so when you make the right turn the wind can be kept more or less on the beam and lay for Ensenada or San Diego. If not, trucking from northern end of the Sea of Cortez to Ensenada is the alternative to sailing the 1000+ miles north.

4. Will always have 2-3 crew total on board including me.

5. I will be sailing 8 weeks a year usually 1 week at a time and for no more than two weeks(so my wife does not divorce me).

6. I want the boat to provide the most fun sailing as possible. I don't want to suffer but only need basic comforts since I will be on the boat at the most two weeks at a time.

7. Of the new boats to satisfy the above parameters, I like the idea of:

A. JPK 38 FC

B. Pogo 30, or Pogo 36 or Pogo 12.5

C. RN 10.70 or RN 12.70

8. I like the above a boats because they are built to cross oceans, are fun and lively to sail, have enough basic comfort, require relatively low maintenance, have a retracting keel and seem to hold their value.

9. The Pogos have enough foam in different places that they are apparently "unsinkable".

10. My concern about the above boats is they cannot point as high as many boats and are uncomfortable going to weather in any kind of chop. But with the above you can sail less close as needed and they will make up and more what you gave up sailing less close when the wind is on the beam or behind the beam. However, sometimes you have no choice but to pinch as much as possible.

Given the above parameters what new or used boat do you think would be best and why?

BASED ON THE ABOVE PARAMETERS PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING:

A. http://rubiconyachts.com/yachts-for-.../#13Dimensions

B. http://rubiconyachts.com/yachts-for-...584/#13Engines

1. Between the two boats above which would you buy? Why?

2. Will both be about the same cost to maintain over 5 years?

3. Which one would be better doing the Baja Bash?

4. Which one will hold it's value better assuming you sell in 5 years if you keep both in great shape?

5. After how many more hours should one plan to replace or do a total rebuild of the engines in each?