Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 25-02-2015, 05:30   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 8,468
What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

There's a 46 ft or so, aluminum French boat anchored next to me. It has a moderate beam and stern, twin rudders and I suspect a center board. The rig is weird. The single mast is placed way aft. There is no main boom, or mainsail track. Just a large genoa and a large staysail, with long poles on deck. This boat was clearly built to have no main. Is it still a Sloop? Can the thing sail upwind? The boat obviously has plenty of ocean miles.
__________________
Paul
Paul L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2015, 06:02   #2
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 4,279
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Possibly this:

Mast aft rig - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reefmagnet is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2015, 15:08   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 8,468
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Yep, that's it. All the examples in that Wiki post are Cats, but this is on a mono. I wonder if the thing goes to weather or not? Here's a pic, triple spreader. The white horizontal is a bimini, no boom.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	VillimelIMG_9790.jpg
Views:	358
Size:	336.3 KB
ID:	97909  
__________________
Paul
Paul L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2015, 18:22   #4
Registered User
 
FamilyVan's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,778
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Weird. How do you heave-to?

Sent from my SGH-I547C using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
FamilyVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2015, 21:40   #5
Registered User
 
Sailor647's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cruising Mexico
Boat: Norseman 400
Posts: 326
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

What do I call a sloop without a main rig?

Broken.

Sailor647 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2015, 21:48   #6
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,826
Images: 25
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Heave to? It wont even go upwind.
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 07:50   #7
Registered User
 
AnchorageGuy's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,619
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Looks to me like the boom is up under the sun awning. It's still a sloop, even if the boom has been removed. There is the possibility that they use the main loose footed. If it's anchored near you, why not go over and ask? I bet you would get an answer. Chuck
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, ICW Hampton Roads To Key West, The Gulf Coast, The Bahamas

The Trawler Beach House
Voyages Of Sea Trek
AnchorageGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 08:53   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 8,468
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnchorageGuy View Post
Looks to me like the boom is up under the sun awning. It's still a sloop, even if the boom has been removed......
There is no boom. It was built originally with no main.
__________________
Paul
Paul L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 09:32   #9
Registered User
 
snort's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Trunk (boot) of my car
Boat: Tinker Traveller...a dozen feet of bluewater awesomeness!
Posts: 1,189
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

I'd call it a Prout.
snort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 09:56   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: New York, New York
Boat: Dufour Safari 27'
Posts: 1,617
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

"What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?"

A slow motor boat?
ArmyDaveNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 09:58   #11
Registered User
 
TeddyDiver's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
Posts: 2,365
Images: 2
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

More Aftmast rigs??? - Boat Design Forums
TeddyDiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 10:00   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 64
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

i would call the weird french whatcamacallit, a power boat!...clyde
clyde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 10:07   #13
Resin Head
 
minaret's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
Posts: 7,205
Images: 52
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

I'd call it what it is, a Delta rig.
__________________
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,

Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
minaret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 10:10   #14
Registered User
 
Tayana42's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Long Beach, CA
Boat: Tayana Vancouver 42
Posts: 2,533
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

I've seen staysail schooners with no booms and what looks like big fore sails on both masts. Maybe a staysail rig?


S/V B'Shert
Tayana42 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2015, 10:19   #15
Registered User
 
SkiprJohn's Avatar

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
Posts: 14,192
Re: What do you call a Sloop without a main rig?

Is it kind of like this?

Revisiting the Delta Rig
__________________
John
SkiprJohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cal, sloop

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Getting to the Top of the Mast on a Fractional rig Without Using the Main Halyard Snore Monohull Sailboats 44 19-10-2012 03:44
How to Raise the Main without the Engine ? Sonrisa Seamanship & Boat Handling 73 16-10-2011 16:11
Rig the Mainsail without a Traveler Tree23 Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 13 13-09-2011 09:45
Would you Expect the Broker to Call You ? sweetsailing Dollars & Cents 15 22-10-2010 11:38

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:29.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.