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Old 20-10-2019, 18:15   #16
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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

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Thanks Sea Dragon! this is the one I am looking at (https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...orien-3010914/) - the engine sounds like it would need to be replaced.. not sure if that's something I am ready for. Anyone have any ideas on that process or a guesstimate price range? I am considering moving forward on this one especially with all the add on equipment ready for a cruising in New England lifestyle. Engine rebuilds/refits or replacements I know are incredibly expensive but.. for the right boat?
Yeah. I would buy it. Alchemy changed hands in 2013 for quite a bit more money. ($80k comes to mind) The original engine may be fine for regional sailing if the fuel tank is clean (unlikely) and fuel filtering is good. Some old Volvos had flawed transmission input shaft splines. Many old saildrives had corrosion problems. Do your research. Mine stripped out halfway between Marquesas and Hawaii. We got through it. A new engine sure would be nice. Liveability tips: remove the doors to the cabins, make the salon table a lot smaller, improve the hanging locker into something useful. Keep it simple.
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Old 20-10-2019, 19:47   #17
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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

Love it! I'll be following up with my broker this week.. treading carefully. Thank you guys all for your comments and real take views. I'll make sure to post pics WHATEVER boat I end up with so you guys can share the pain *COUGH* I mean the journey
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Hi BThompson - just curious what you ended up finding out about Alchemy. Iíve had my eye out for a Praetorian and ran across that same yacht world ad. That boat looks like itís a pretty good deal. Did you ever end up checking it out?

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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

Hey confused noise!

So I did end up going to look at Alchemy, and talked to the boats broker. Found out a lot of good information, for the most part the boat looks very sound there some stuff that you would expect to from an older boat in that price range. But in my opinion; as a novice never owned my own boat but done a lot of reading and lived on a wooden power boat for a while (lol) It's def worth at a look especially if you are looking for this type of sailboat. The owner & broker seem very forthright about everything that the boat has to offer and if you get serious about actually wanting to buy her they have people on site that can actually knock off some of the stuff that's on the to-do list. The man who owned the boat previously was a "boat mechanic" (not sure exactly) and he did most of the installs/upgrades/modifications. For someone who intends to buy her, the broker I think would be willing to put the new owner in touch with him in order to ask any questions about systems etc. Over all great boat, engine had a lot of hours, (to be expected) but for the most part the through holes all looked good some minor cosmetic stuff but most of the things that I caught were due to the fact that it's been sitting a while. I was devastated that my dreams need more planning as the dog/child/location ended up being too much to logically move ahead right now but I would love for Alchemy to go to a loving sailor. Please let me know if you or anyone buys her so I can imagine long transatlantic voyages for her!

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Hi BThompson - just curious what you ended up finding out about Alchemy. Iíve had my eye out for a Praetorian and ran across that same yacht world ad. That boat looks like itís a pretty good deal. Did you ever end up checking it out?

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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

I have sailed a Pretorien over 20,000 miles. Due to the fairly hard bilges, its not super comfortable underway. The Catalina might actually be a bit more comfortable in a seaway, but that's just a guess.
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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

Thank for you the info and fast response! The combination of seaworthiness and price makes that boat attractive to me. I had gravitated towards that model, then had found that particular boat on yacht world, then got excited and did a general search on Praetorians and found your post! My daughter is now in Annapolis so finding time to get there and take a look first hand is definitely doable.

Boatguy30 - thanks for the advice, thatís a lot of miles. Iím early stages and so open to other possibilities.

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I think neither is a good live aboard. There are better boats from that era for living aboard or taking them on an occasional ocean crossing. For live aboard I would chose the H31 from that era - have a look at this comparison. If you want to cross oceans you will need to invest a lot in boat and systems maintenance and I am not sure if it is worth it for such old designs, irrespective of the price.
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Re: Wauquiez Pretorien 35 vs. Catalina 320

To OP:

If you're still in the game to buy check out these alternatives to your initial contenders.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...r-m36-3500002/
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/mariner-36-canning

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...er-38-3098022/
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/ma...38-pilot-house

Both for about 1/2 of your stated budget. The 36' definitely looks better cared for but the 38' being a pilothouse may be a better fit for your liveaboard and/or cruising goals.

I have a 36' and it has amazing amount of storage nooks which with a little tinkering become cavernous storage areas. And very good access to the engine from all sides. Overall build quality is very high as they were built in NH back when when boatbuilders took pride in their product.
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