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11-10-2013, 18:17
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
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Originally Posted by Davie J.
I thought we were supposed to be rating monohulls: Personally, I wouldn't go out of sight of land in a multihull.
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I'm with you on that one. Wonder if you could right one that has capsized?
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12-10-2013, 08:17
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#227
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
Ask Peter Coyote......Oh, I forgot. Peter dissappeared in the Atlantic while crossing it in his multihull. I guess that's why many of them have hatches on the underside of the hull.
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12-10-2013, 12:52
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#228
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Orion 58 1986 Inca
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of all time , any boat that has positive stability while upside down cannot be in the running , multihulls with their many advantages are out. Murphy's Law dictates that if the mast and sails are better suited pointing downward , that this will occur at some point .
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12-10-2013, 13:09
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#229
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
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Originally Posted by inca
Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of all time , any boat that has positive stability while upside down cannot be in the running , multihulls with their many advantages are out. Murphy's Law dictates that if the mast and sails are better suited pointing downward , that this will occur at some point .
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everytime I see a multi hull off shore which isn't often I cant help but wonder about the owner
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12-10-2013, 13:19
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#230
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
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Originally Posted by inca
Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of all time , any boat that has positive stability while upside down cannot be in the running , multihulls with their many advantages are out. Murphy's Law dictates that if the mast and sails are better suited pointing downward , that this will occur at some point .
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Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of all time , any boat that can sink cannot be in the running , monohulls with their many advantages are out. Murphy's Law dictates that if the boat can sink , that this will occur at some point .
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12-10-2013, 14:00
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#231
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Orion 58 1986 Inca
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
Any boat anywhere can sink , any person testing the sea gods with statements like " she's unsinkable " should have learnt from the Titanic !
There are a lot of Catamarans blue water cruising , more than ever. Murphy's Law may not occur in the owners life time. Are any Catamarans self righting ?
Aaron
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12-10-2013, 15:01
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#232
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Canada
Boat: Sinek, Pilothouse, 43ft
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
It would seem that a self righting cruising cat would require a very large inflatable bag at the mast head and that would just get the boat to less than roughly 90 degrees. What about the rest of the way? I can't imagine how it could work.
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12-10-2013, 15:33
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Boat: TRT 1200
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Insurance stats state the cruising multi is a slightly better risk for blue water sailing than the cruising mono. It also states that a person on a cruising mono has a seven times greater chance of being injured than those on the multi. Must be that heeling thing?
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12-10-2013, 16:00
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
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Alloy Trismus 37 of course!! ice or tropics its all the same to her!
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We saw one and the wife loved it. Must say I was impressed also. This one had a wee pilot house, internal steering station.
But it had issues, issues and issues.
At best it would have been a complete rebuild.
Pity.
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12-10-2013, 16:33
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
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Originally Posted by smj
Insurance stats state the cruising multi is a slightly better risk for blue water sailing than the cruising mono. It also states that a person on a cruising mono has a seven times greater chance of being injured than those on the multi. Must be that heeling thing?
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That's odd! I can't find any of those stats in my insurance data base. Please tell me where to find that information.
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13-12-2015, 16:58
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#236
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Pacific Ocean
Boat: Swanson 28
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
'Best' is a judgement call. One person's lemon is another person's ideal boat. For me personally, it would be the Westsail 28.
Small enough to solo, but big enough for a family. Strong and stable, looks good, keeps its resale value and it has a canoe stern.
Keeping it simple with a transom hung rudder/tiller, self-furling cutter rig and a DECENT size engine, it would (and has) take an ordinary guy, with common sense and a reasonable level of health/fitness anywhere in the world without Thurston Howell's wallet or Joshua Slocum's balls.
Also like the Pearson Triton 28 and the Southern Cross 28.
The Westsail 33 is also a fine sailboat, but a bit too heavy to comfortably solo-sail and that might discourage a captain from unload crew members who aren't working out.
But like I said, it's just my opinion.
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13-12-2015, 17:15
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#237
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Wherever the boat is
Boat: Cape Dory 33
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
Even though I can't afford one my vote would be for the Bristol Channel Cutter, in fiberglass, built by Sam Morse Co.
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13-12-2015, 17:55
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#238
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Northland, NZ
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
Wauquiez Amphitrite. The Oyster 39 is very similar, but I have not been aboard an oyster. Owned A43 -138 for 3.5 years. A true blue water boat, not a great coastal cruiser.
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13-12-2015, 18:00
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Northland, NZ
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
I guess I jumped in at the right time! I had the ultimate blue water cruiser and now own the ultimate cruiser! The Richard Woods Vardo 34. Can't sink does 10 knots in average tradewinds, mid teens in a stiff breeze, 16.5 knots well reefed is top so far.
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13-12-2015, 18:59
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#240
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Posts: 420
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Re: Vote On the 'Best Blue Water Cruising Sailboat of All Time'
ever try to right one of those in any conditions much less a storm? In todays world of sat phones ebribs etc. they are usable and great but not my cup of tea.
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