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14-11-2020, 16:39
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#76
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Darwin, Australia
Boat: Herreshoff 36
Posts: 214
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Re: Vendee 2020
But look at that 4 boats on the inside, with Isabel Jochke on the lead. They bravely tried something different, which is very important in some racing situation, and now they still have the strong tail wind of the depression and are closer to the most optimal layline. They most likely will run out of luck and wind soon, but who knows...
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14-11-2020, 17:30
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#77
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 1,558
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Re: Vendee 2020
A community member at www.windy.com has added a plugin to allow the tracks of the boats to be visible in Windy.
A big thank you to Kevin Saliou for developing this plugin
This can be used together with the Wind layer and other features for those who are interested to look at more specific weather data.
Each boat can be clicked on to view a pop up with more data.
Instructions for use:
Go to: https://www.windy.com/plugins?28.188...1,4,i:pressure
(this displays Plugins + Wind Layer + Atlantic View
- change the Lat/Long later by dragging the screen as the race progresses)
Click: Load plugin directly from npm
Type: regadata
(NB: windy-plugin- will appear automatically after clicking inside the box)
Click: Load & activate
After: Enjoy!
NB: At the bottom right you can also turn On:
- Particle Animation (moving wind)
- Pressure (should be turned on already)
- Reported Wind (reported data from weather stations
eg: Canaries Airports are visible in my screenshot below)
You can also click anywhere on the screen to display a dropped Flag with data at that location. This can be dragged anywhere on the screen.
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14-11-2020, 18:08
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#78
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Darwin, Australia
Boat: Herreshoff 36
Posts: 214
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Re: Vendee 2020
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmh2002
A community member at www.windy.com has added a plugin to allow the tracks of the boats to be visible in Windy.
A big thank you to Kevin Saliou for developing this plugin
This can be used together with the Wind layer and other features for those who are interested to look at more specific weather data.
Each boat can be clicked on to view a pop up with more data.
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Beautiful, thank you.
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14-11-2020, 18:45
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Boat: Beneteau 432, C&C Landfall 42, Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 2,160
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Re: Vendee 2020
I see 16 boats all within spitting distance of each other...I'm sure they all know where all the other boats are in relationship to their boat.....if we can see it, surely they can too...
The big trick is crossing the doldrums...I'm confident we will see a splitting of the ranks then.....a few miles to the east or west can find yourself in a hole...and with no or little wind your options quickly diminish..
crossing a day later may also be quite different from boats ahead of you....it could be better...it could be worse...no telling....computerized wind conditions do not always tell the whole story....
Once all the boats make it thru'....we'll undoubtably see a new pecking order...
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14-11-2020, 18:59
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#80
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,490
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Re: Vendee 2020
Alex is a sweet boy in a good toy. The problem is he tends to break boats. So I see him in one of two positions: DNF or WIN.
DNF is very likely, and not just that he is Alex but far more because of the DNF rate in this race. Win is somewhat likely too - to finish first first you must finish BUT who does not push hard never wins. He pushes.
I am hugely disappointed Manuard's boat had some hiccups and is not in between the fore part of the fleet. Manuard has what it takes, as any ARC sailor can affirm. ;-)
Towards the ITCZ the smart ones will be sailed mostly in the AUTO mode - it is a drag race, there is nothing to it, put the medal to the pedal and sleep as much as you can to recover. Later at ITCZ there is a lot of nerve racking analysis paralysis syphilis. Some sailors love it, others hate it. All know there they are sort of 'given' miles rather than anything else.
And the same thing (sleep, trim, eat, sleep) continues below the ITCZ until they reach the SW part of the S Atlantic oscillation. There the race begins again.
Funny thing is the one that gets into ITCZ first becomes a 'rabbit' - you will see them on your AIS (or from the mast top) and may be able to sail round them - should they get caught in a local lull.
b.
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14-11-2020, 19:45
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#81
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: LI Sound
Boat: Sabre 34-2
Posts: 388
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Re: Vendee 2020
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmh2002
A community member at www.windy.com has added a plugin to allow the tracks of the boats to be visible in Windy.
A big thank you to Kevin Saliou for developing this plugin
This can be used together with the Wind layer and other features for those who are interested to look at more specific weather data.
Each boat can be clicked on to view a pop up with more data.
Instructions for use:
Go to: https://www.windy.com/plugins?28.188...1,4,i:pressure
(this displays Plugins + Wind Layer + Atlantic View
- change the Lat/Long later by dragging the screen as the race progresses)
Click: Load plugin directly from npm
Type: regadata
(NB: windy-plugin- will appear automatically after clicking inside the box)
Click: Load & activate
After: Enjoy!
NB: At the bottom right you can also turn On:
- Particle Animation (moving wind)
- Pressure (should be turned on already)
- Reported Wind (reported data from weather stations
eg: Canaries Airports are visible in my screenshot below)
You can also click anywhere on the screen to display a dropped Flag with data at that location. This can be dragged anywhere on the screen.

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This is great, thank you.
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14-11-2020, 21:08
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#82
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: LI Sound
Boat: Sabre 34-2
Posts: 388
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Re: Vendee 2020
Weekly recap video
https://youtu.be/7klbcWysxXQ
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14-11-2020, 22:16
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#83
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 1,558
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Re: Vendee 2020
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahun
Beautiful, thank you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knotical
This is great, thank you.
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You're welcome
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15-11-2020, 01:33
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#84
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK, Australia, Europe
Boat: Custom Catamaran
Posts: 717
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Re: Vendee 2020
Is Alex also using that halyard hook that’s caused problems for other boats?
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15-11-2020, 01:35
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#85
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Amsterdam
Boat: Jeaunneau
Posts: 16
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Vendee 2020
So I've been doing a Daily report on the Vendee Globe 2020, but also trying to give a bit an educational twist to it.
https://youtu.be/tUJPMZvbXcM
Curious if this lives as much among the cruisers here  Who would like some foils on his boat?
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15-11-2020, 03:09
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#86
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 9,566
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Re: Vendee 2020
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seawolfflo
So I've been doing a Daily report on the Vendee Globe 2020, but also trying to give a bit an educational twist to it.
https://youtu.be/tUJPMZvbXcM
Curious if this lives as much among the cruisers here  Who would like some foils on his boat? 
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Have been enjoying your videos immensely with my morning coffee here in Subic Philippines as we recover from yet another Typhoon.
Having lived in Aalsmeer for many years doing large yacht projects, its also nice to hear that friendly dutch sense of humor.... Dank je!
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15-11-2020, 04:09
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#87
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 9,566
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Re: Vendee 2020
Quote Barnakiel
Alex is a sweet boy in a good toy. The problem is he tends to break boats. So I see him in one of two positions: DNF or WIN.
I think that assessment of Alex, is a bit unfair.
If I remember correctly on last Vendee, did not his foil hit something???
I do agree that there is a very high risk of mechanical failures, I dare say a certainty!
Luck often determins if that failure cascades into a DNF.
Unlike Formula One with average 20 races per season, the Vendee format of solo high speed racing only once every Four years, does not enhance reliability.
This is my favorite race because of the huge commitment each skipper puts into a test of surviving mechanical and weather divergence better than the rest.
It is both instinct and luck that determines the standings, but in my eyes they are all winners of the ultimate sailor's Marathon.
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15-11-2020, 05:38
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#88
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 2,184
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Re: Vendee 2020
Wow, that plugin for windy is great, because you have a weather preview, while on the Vendée site there seems to be only the current situation.
Funny enough I took a different approach when selecting who I'd follow more closely.
I looked who I found most sympathic.
They are unlikely to win, but more fun to follow for me.
Here are "my" favorites:
Clément Giraud
Armel Tripon
Sébastien Destremeau
Pip Hare
Clarisse Cremer
and, being German of course:
Boris Hermann & Isabel Joschke
Interesting enough, I did not like Boris Herrmann previously, but now that I see his attitude and videos, that changed.
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15-11-2020, 06:30
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#89
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Wiscasset, Maine
Boat: 1985 O'Day 28
Posts: 46
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Re: Vendee 2020
Yes, Boris’ video updates are very enjoyable and interesting in terms of mental state and information. His website has more data than I can make use of but certainly valuable to more technical navigators than me. Next four days should be the first decent look at relative performance of these foilers.
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15-11-2020, 06:48
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#90
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Boat: Beneteau 432, C&C Landfall 42, Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 2,160
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Re: Vendee 2020
I'm sure that Alex is fully aware of " you break it, you lose" quandary, but like last time, his boat is perfectly capable of sailing without foils.
His strategy might be if he can put enuff distance between himself and other entrants in the Atlantic, he can somewhat take his foot of the pedal in the Indian and Pacific ocean, though I doubt that, once you are racing you are racing.
Clearly, he has a fast boat, as shown to date, he is also no newcomer to this race, tactics are as much a part of winning this race as boat speed.
The big unknown.....as much for him as the rest of the fleet...is hitting a submerged object.....
I, for one, would like to see him do it, he has certainly paid his dues, but it's a toss up, I'm a big fan of Jean Le Cam too...
They've got another 10 weeks or more to sort it all out...
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