Vagabond 47- Force 50 - Formosa 51 Info?

[seapup]

Ditto to Bob and Cam, Watson..these boats are motor sailors not sail boats. Beam reach and soldier's wind and they're glorious...up-wind it's iron genoa and steadying sail(s) - 8-9 knots optimal either way.
Bob - I sailed and lived aboard your Islander 32' MkIII design for nine years in S.F. Bay, and singled it to San Diego in February '91 in memorably poor conditions. You're the bomb in my book! I always distinguished my boat as BP designed Islander...grin.

[bob perry]

Seapup:
Thank you very much. A quiet and kind of ho-hum night just got better.

[bene343]

There's one for sale on Vashon Island WA, she's got tons of room and has been to Australia and back and was lived aboard. If you are not in a hurry to get anywhere, she might be OK

[watson1990]

Thanks for the heads up.
I actually can't buy just yet;prolly 18-24 months away + - But I do want to do all the homework I can and I also need to keep up to date on any that might be on the market,just so I have a feel for the market when I do decide to pounce.
Do you have a link for an ad for the one you mentioned ?
As far as being in a hurry,,,,other than the fact that I want the time I need to spend between now and the day I buy my boat to hurry by. On the other hand,because I am 58 years old ,I really don't want time to hurry by.
Basic reason: 3 + years ago I had to have a kidney transplant.During the testing stage they discovered that I have a rare form of Leukemia,,,one that has no cure as of yet. The good news [yes there is some ] is that my leuk is "asleep' or dormant and this type doesn't usually wake up until the age of 65 +- ,,,lets say mid sixties .some times it just stays asleep.
Perhaps I could change my name here to "cool hand leuk" Ha !!
Anyway,I am in a hurry to get my boat and get to work on her...The re-naming process will take at least 3 days if not longer! no hurry.and beer...lots of beer !
And once I get her to the British Virgin Islands I want to sleep and sail and sleep.Prolly the second year I will go to the turks or Barbados and sleep and sail and... Upon my arrival I would like it if time would nearly stand still ,assuming all thiings are well ...
Time will tell !
I have so much to do !!! thanks for the info and please take a look for the URL for that boat on Vashon Island....
Watson

[bene343]

Gig Harbor Yacht Sales - YACHTS FOR SALE !

[watson1990]

Thank you Bene,
You are correct .That would be a very good candidate for a restore. She apperars to be in good shape,and some of the systems would need going through/replacement. But that is what I want : a good candidate for me is to find one that needs months of elbow grease .I think it would take a man working 5 days a week 10 hours a day ,about 4 weeks to sand all the wood. Then a week or two to varnish everything Because of the asking price " I ASSUME " she has no deck leaks but that would need to be checked very carefully.The full Bimini/enclosure would need to be replaced as well and a number of projects . That is what I am looking for in 24 months !! dang !
Apparently they are fill timers with 2-3 children aboard so I am sure there is wear and tare .... The engine appears to be particularly strong but once again , a good mechanic and a few hours would be a wise investment ...Really nice boat ....and sanding every single piece of wood down to bare, and then varnished and she would look lovely

thanks for the info and if you should see any more over the course of time don't hesitate to send me stuff !
Thanks Again
W

[tariolf]

Hello Watson,

I have just read this post because I am dreaming in the same direction.
So how is your project going, healt and all?
I would like to know...
Cheers

[seapup]

I drafted a long reply and timed out - ugh! Hello Mate, anything particular you wish to know about the good ship 'Alliance' ? Happy to share...

Best regards, Lance

[tariolf]

Don't get it seapup, I thought this was Watson's post!
I wanted to know how he is doing after all this time...

[seapup]

I was replying to an offline query from Watson and inadvertantly posted to the thread instead. Never mind...

[zeehag]

sad to say that these ships sail a lot better than folks actually speak....ASK A FORMOSA 51 OWNER.. there is a formosa 51 yahoo group--they woul dlove to help. as would leaky teaky yacht club, the former formosa owners group, also a yahoo group.
i was mainly advised, with the purchase of mine, that they sail for sh**....is not so.
i was advised i would hate the way it handles--i LOVE it...
before any rash decisions are made--sail them all. everything you can sail--SAIL them.
then, with help of lust and some common sense, buy what pleases your eye--after all, you have to live with your purchase----
i enjoy the looks of all the mentioned boats--my favorite is the vagabond 47--it keeps value-- are within 200,000 usd,as asking price, and sell for 40k-150k usd, depending on condition.--can find bad examples of shoddy maintenance for 40k, but consider the project value as a gain. i have yet to find a deal breaker in these purchases--short of the entire exterior teakwood in dire need of replacement due to neglect--but, here in mexico--just rip it out and replace with a different hardwood for not much money..is work, yes, but worth every penny , if you enjoy this type of ship.

these boats sailing, full and bye with a bone in their teeth is one of most impressive sights ..... YES!! THEY SAIL FINE.

old head--
btw--op--how is it going for you?

[tariolf]

Hey Seapup, if you are writing to Watson, tell him to check this old post.
Would like to know how he is doing with this dream...
Thanks.

By the way Zeehag,
What's your story!
Cheers.

[zeehag]

Originally Posted by tariolf

....
By the way Zeehag,
What's your story!
Cheers.

can ye be more specific? or are ye being sarcsmic....

[tariolf]

sarcsmic!

This is a happy forum, why would this be?

This thread has no activity since 3 years and you just added a post.

I'am just wondering why.

No need to be rude.

Cheers mate.

[Captain Jeffry]

Zee is correct! I delivered a Vagabond 47 from Coos Bay to Port Townsend in early September. Great trip, great boat. Once around Flattery we sailed to Port Angeles and the boat performed well. I also give sailing/piloting lessons to an owner of a Formosa 51 in Cabrillo. Another great boat! We went to Catalina several weeks ago with 9 total on board as a small shakedown, first trip for the owner. We had tons of fun with 15-18kts! Maneuvering/backing under power in tight quarters is 'different' and requires lots of practice in varied conditoins.

"full and bye with a bone in their teeth is one of most impressive sights"

INDEED!!!