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Old 14-06-2022, 05:58   #1
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Twist anchor swivelling connector

Has anyone used this product? I installed a Mantus anchor and it consistently coming up incorrectly so I have to reach out and twist it manually. Guy at the marina told me about this product to address it, but I cannot find much about it anywhere.

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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

No, I have not used it, but I'm intrigued, particularly since I ahve that problem. It's a really ingenious and simple design. If you buy one, please report back to us.
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Old 14-06-2022, 07:11   #3
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

Looking at it, the weak swivel and screw holding the halves together causes a pause.

Try different anchors, some rotate MUCH better than others - keep it simple.
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

Another option is to be moving in reverse when you bring the anchor up.(obviously after breaking it free of the ground) The flow of water causes the anchor to face the proper way as you raise it
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

If the anchor is coming up consistently in the wrong orientation cut 1 link of chain from the end.

To help align modern concave anchors motor backwards instead of forwards. The other trick is as the anchor is spinning, time the retrieve so that the anchor is in the correct orientation as it hits the bow roller (unfortunately this last tip does not work if you have a swivel).

One, or a combination of these solutions will work.

If not, I would not recommend any of the anchor straighteners with perhaps the exception of the Ultra flip swivel. Many are poorly constructed, reducing strength. The bulk inhibits the anchor performing as it should do and there is lot to hang up and create an unfair lead.

There are some flat plate flip links. These are a simple kinked flat plate of steel with a couple of slots. (These are simple enough you can make your own can make with minimal tools). These models don’t have the strength limitations, but the other drawbacks remain. Unfortunately if they turn sideways they will stop the anchor setting correctly and they are even more likely to bind and hang up than the more streamlined round models. There is no swivel function with these flat plate models.

Try and avoid extra hardware in your anchor system if possible. The KISS approach is is often the best solution.
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Old 14-06-2022, 09:03   #6
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

I had one of those on my 23 ton motorsailer. You can't see/check the swivel. That said, it looked fairly beaten up by the time I bought the boat, and apparently had not failed.
Have a look at the "flip link" Why Anchor Right Australia is set apart from the rest - Anchor Right Australia Now that's a sweet invention.
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Old 14-06-2022, 10:37   #7
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

Just lift the chain off the gypsy when the anchor is up and in, rotate it so there is no twist in the chain between the gypsy and the anchor, and put it back. I would never put a swivel in.
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

That’s an interesting device. I also am reluctant to trust the swivel, and think the swivel is unnecessary. A bent rod would naturally turn downwards, and then attach the anchor in the proper orientation to come up properly.

Seems like it would work, but what do I know - I don’t have a windlass.
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

Been using this for 8 years, no issues.
Anchored with winds gusting 50 knots.
I dismantle the swivel once a year to inspect and no wear or damage seen.
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Has anyone used this product? I installed a Mantus anchor and it consistently coming up incorrectly so I have to reach out and twist it manually.
This "problem" seems to keep coming up, and I do not understand it.

I have now a Mantus anchor, and a Rocna before that. And a Mantus before that And a CQR before that.... Multiple boats, multiple anchors.

In EVERY case they come up facing the "wrong" way sometimes. In EVERY case, I just keep pulling. The anchor will flip over by itself, with a "thunk," gravity does the work. An anchor upside down, is not stable and can not stay that way.

For those people who can't seem to get anchors to come up correctly, what happens if you just keep pulling? Does it get stuck? Stay upside down? What?

I guess it is POSSIBLE you could design a bow roller that did not allow the anchor to "flip" itself over, but I have never seen one, but that would be dumb...
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

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If the anchor is coming up consistently in the wrong orientation cut 1 link of chain from the end.
Or simply lift off and turn chain 1/4 or 1/2 turn on chainwheel.

We very rarely have an issue
Anchor every night unless on passage or on hard
Got rid of the swivels long ago.

What does work for us us a grooved bow roller to suit chain.
I took ours off and did it by hand using a 100mm angle grinder
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

I installed this on my Manson Supreme. https://www.mantusmarine.com/product...xoCZtcQAvD_BwE

Works like a charm every time.
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

It's a reasonably good design. The use of a shackle essentially eliminates prying forces and the bent piece and swivel looks pretty good. The weak spot is the chain connection pin. It's pretty similar to the kong swivel assembly design, but the Kong design has a key on the chain pin that helps keep the pin from pulling out. That being said, because of the shackle, there should be very little to no prying force on the fork, so the pin should be always in shear, which should be fine. The bolt holding the two halves closed, should see almost no load.
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Re: Twist anchor swivelling connector

Make sure you check the strength of the swivel matches the strength of the chain.

Is it that hard to rotate the chain by hand as the anchor appears at the waterline?
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Just lift the chain off the gypsy when the anchor is up and in, rotate it so there is no twist in the chain between the gypsy and the anchor, and put it back. I would never put a swivel in.


Yes. If u use a wildcat, give the chain a half turn.

Is a wildcat same as gypsy?
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