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Old 12-01-2021, 02:34   #1
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Thoughts about this boat.

Hello All,
I an very new to sailing taking basic lessons, located in Queensland Australia. Could I get your advice about this boat as an entry into coastal cruising and sheltered waters.
It is advertised as a Trekka 22 but I believe the Trekka was a Yawl?
Thanks for any help or advice I really appreciate the brains trust here !!

Trekka 22 ft Laurent Giles
Build 1996.
Hull Construction Material : Honduras Mahogany, cold moulded
Hull Type : Mono
Deck Construction Material : Marine ply dynal sheathed

Length (feet) : 22 feet
Length (m) : 7 m
Beam/Width (feet) : 6'5 feet
Beam/Width (m) : 1.98 m
Draft (m) : 1.37 m
Draft (feet) : 4'5 feet

Keel/Ballast : 31.8% ratio
Dry Weight (kgs) : 1400
Number of Helms : 1 tiller
Displacement : 1400 kg
Engine Notes : 2017 long shaft Tohatsu 5hp

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Re: Thoughts about this boat.

Looks like a very tidy boat with good gear. 22ft is a good entry level size.

Yes, I do believe the original design was a yawl, but for your purpose, that tiny mizzen is an unnecessary complication; it was probably in the design to balance the rig so the boat could steer itself.

There’s no light air sail, so that is one item you might want to add. Other items you might need are: autopilot, depth sounder, hand-held GPS, and some sort of toilet. There are always pieces of gear one adds to a used boat.

Check the condition of the sails. Get a survey. Good luck.
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Re: Thoughts about this boat.

That looks like a lovely little boat. Cold molded mahogany - cool! Agree with @nuku34 that for the size, a mizzen would just complicate.

i don't know that this is a boat for much more than long weekends as the level of comfort / amenities are closer to camping, but that's also a very personal choice about the comforts you feel you need to go cruising.

can you take it out for a test sail? see how she handles... how usable is she to single hand for you.
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Unless you love woodworking, sanding and painting, I recommend for your first boat to go plastic fantastic.
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Unless you have ever experienced the "soul" of timber, it is really hard to understand why someone would set themselves up for the more careful maintenance it requires. However, that lovely mahogany will keep its glow for years. It is a nicely proportioned little ship, of conservative design--actually quite strong build, if she's still in good nick. Yes, have a survey done by a surveyor who knows timber boats. I agree that she needs a light air headsail.

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Lovely little boat by a great designer.. if she's been looked after she's still got a lot of years in her..
I'd not fret about the mizzen..
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Old 13-01-2021, 15:57   #7
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Re: Thoughts about this boat.

Member "Fore and Aft" https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ft-159891.html might be able to help you.

Trained Yacht Surveyor, Boatbuilder by trade, familiar with wood construction, and in Queensland (although it seems that this boat is in Avalon).
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In that size, I'd be inclined to consider a trailer sailer if you don't have a mooring sorted out or intend to cruise or live aboard. A small boat like that will cost a disproportionate amount of cash to keep floating 24/7. Even if you don't have the vehicle or storage space they're cheaper to keep in dry storage. And if you do have the vehicle and space, you can cruise at highway speeds to a variety of locations.
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Looks like a really fun little boat. I'd go for it!
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jmh2002 thanks for the recommendation, it is a pity she is down in Sydney during covid or otherwise I would be keen to survey her. Having read Trekka Round the world a number of times. I would love to survey a sister ship, she would definitely qualify for my nosy parker marine surveyor special rate.
Reefmagnet is right about disproportionate amount of money to keep a small boat in the water. Unless you have a cheap mooring or berth available or hate the whole trailer boat drama scenario.
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Our friend sailed a thing like this from AUS to RSA.


He made it hence the design is fine.


I think as with any cold molded thing you need to inspect the keel interface very well.


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In that size, I'd be inclined to consider a trailer sailer if you don't have a mooring sorted out or intend to cruise or live aboard. A small boat like that will cost a disproportionate amount of cash to keep floating 24/7. Even if you don't have the vehicle or storage space they're cheaper to keep in dry storage. And if you do have the vehicle and space, you can cruise at highway speeds to a variety of locations.
If memory served she was designed to be used as a trailer sailer with an appropriate designed trailer.. hence the keel design to facilitate slipping.
https://laurentgilesarchive.com/product/trekka/
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Thankyou to everyone one for your feedback and comments. This forum over the last six months has been endless and fascinating reading and the thoughtfulness and kindness in the way you share your knowledge is very inspiring.
I am very interested in the maintenance and enjoy the idea of scheduled work and repairs .Ideally this would be a day sail boat in coastal waters until we become experienced enough. Thankyou also for the information on the extra sails and equipment that would be useful. We have a number of high quality sheltered anchorages and options for mooring close by. We would hope in a few years to buy a larger boat for more extensive voyages. Thanks again for the kindness.
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If memory served she was designed to be used as a trailer sailer with an appropriate designed trailer.. hence the keel design to facilitate slipping.
https://laurentgilesarchive.com/product/trekka/

Anything with a full keel is problematic to launch at the vast majority of our boat ramps. A drop keel is the go around these parts.



As an aside, this bloke's been running his trailer sailer up and down the Queensland coast for years...
https://www.youtube.com/user/simoncarteroz
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