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Old 16-10-2021, 15:04   #1
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The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

Hello everyone. Iíve been reading the forum for many years but I just made an account and this is my first post.

In the next year or so I will be purchasing a sailboat and cruising off into the ocean blue. I was hoping some more experienced sailors than myself could suggest some boats brands that fit my criteria. I know a boat with all the things I want for the given length would be a unicorn boat but I would to tick as many boxes as possible. My criteria Iím hoping to achieve are.
-Fin w/ skeg hung rudder or full keel
-35-42 ft (preferably around 37-40 ft)
-head with separate shower
-aft cabin that can preferably sleep 2
-American made (many beautiful boats in EU I wish I could get)
-a galley large enough to hold decent food stores and large water tankage
-preferably no teak decks
-blue water capable that sails well
-no bolt on keel or blade rudder
-$100k or less

I appreciate any and all comments and choices from anybody. Thank you very much everyone!
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Old 16-10-2021, 15:14   #2
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

Welcome to the forum.
I'm not nearly as experienced as many on here so I won't offer any advice on brands or models.
What I would recommend is to get on as many boats, and specifically as many varieties of boats as possible. Go sailing, sit aboard at the dock or anchor, racing, cruising, get aboard any way you can. Build your own knowledge base and experience so you can pick what boat works for you, not what others think works for you
Good luck and have fun with it. Discovery is an exciting part of the process
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Old 16-10-2021, 15:59   #3
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

Add compass and charts to the must have list.
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Old 16-10-2021, 16:21   #4
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

It's going to be tough to get everything you want. You are basically limiting yourself to 30+yr old boats with an encapsulated keel. You'll need around 40ft to get a reasonable aft berth. I've got a few ideas though.

Bristol 41.1 would be my top choice but might max your budget. Encapsulated keel with a centerboard.

Pearson 424 has everything you asked for but they are almost all ketch rigged. The 422 is a center cockpit sloop but they only made like 30.

Caliber 38/40 solid cruising boat with everything you asked for.

Passport 40, made in Asia and the aft cabin would be on the small side.


I have several friends with Island Packet 38s, is a full keel but very spacious for a 38fter. They have a cult following and tend to be very well maintained. My friends love their boats and accept the tradeoffs of the full keel.
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Old 16-10-2021, 17:37   #5
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

There may be some steel boats that would get you there. Aft cabin is the hard one in this size range.

Do you mean center cockpit? Or more like a really big quarter berth?
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Old 16-10-2021, 17:46   #6
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

I can only suggest a few things. Would you be willing to stretch to a 44'? I really loved a Peterson 44 I sailed years ago. That one would satisfy your criteria I think. I am also partial to old school boats, like the Pearson Rhodes 41. It checks off your boxes, except for aft cabin, but it doesn't have a lot of room compared with more modern designs. I saw an old S&S design, about 38', that had a center cockpit and aft cabin in our harbor a couple years ago but I can't recall the make... I'll keep looking. Welcome aboard here!
Check here too for ideas: http://bluewaterboats.org/
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

Islander 41, but youíd be hard pressed to find one that didnít need a lot of work.
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

think you need to change your mind set a bit

no boat afloat is perfect...everything is a compromise, and nothing is a 'must have' if balanced against enough off-sets

be flexible and learn how to balance the relative merits of different things

also be sensible about what you really want eg so many folk want 'blue water capable'...but never go near ocean sailing

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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Arthur.
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Old 17-10-2021, 05:33   #10
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Caliber 38/40 solid cruising boat with everything you asked for.
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I was thinking the same thing, Dave. Those Bill Lapworth boats were all designed specifically for cruising, so were well thought out.

Great suggestion! Now about finding one....

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EDIT: Spoke too soon! There's one for sale near me (I'm currently spending 3 days/week in Midland). She looks pretty good, plus, she's been sailed mostly in Fresh Water - bonus!

Caiber 38, Sloop $97,000 USD Lying: Midland, Ontario
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...er-38-7579889/
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

I am living in a 1972 Islander 36, named Intrepid. Its previous owner, Zak Sunderland used it in 2009 to sail around the world. I am currently in the Caribbean after my 4 year sail around the world. 2 circumnavigations, no issues, in a 50 year old sailboat.
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Old 17-10-2021, 08:27   #12
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

I own (and love) a Dix38 built of finest steel. They come with an aft cockpit and various layouts, and there is also a pilothouse version.

My boat has a largish aft cabin, and a huge foc'sl where my wife and I sleep. Where the other aft cabin would be is a storage cabin that takes all sails, tools, spares, Genset and all the stuff that accumulates, so we end up with an uncluttered boat. I really like the layout.

Dudley Dix is a South African designer and now lives in Florida, as far as I know, so there's an American connection if its that important.

Here's the thing: at 38 foot all the forces are very manageable. The difference between a 38 and a 40 is noticeable and don't get me going on price as size increases. I think it's a function of the square of the length...

Anyway, here's one that was owned by my mate Barry. It's sold now but this well-laid-out presentation gives you a good idea. https://forbesyachts.com/buy-yachts/...ix-38-for-sale

Lastly, you are not asking for the unattainable at your budget. Lots of boats out there. Come to SA, buy one here, and start off with the milk run to the Caribbean with a wind from aft and the weather getting warmer every day.
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I was thinking the same thing, Dave. Those Bill Lapworth boats were all designed specifically for cruising, so were well thought out.

Great suggestion! Now about finding one....

Fair winds,
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EDIT: Spoke too soon! There's one for sale near me (I'm currently spending 3 days/week in Midland). She looks pretty good, plus, she's been sailed mostly in Fresh Water - bonus!

Caiber 38, Sloop $97,000 USD Lying: Midland, Ontario
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...er-38-7579889/

Thatís a nice boat! Anchor locker envy.
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

You might also consider the Tayana and Island Packet boats. Both have excellent reputations. Love Hans Christian but don't know about their reputation.
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Re: The perfect 35-40ft sailboat

go to a website like YachtWorld. narrow it to the boats you like. then go to sailboat data and look at the hull shape. this will save you a lot of time and eliminate the boats you don't like. now you will have a better idea of what to look for and what it will cost. have fun
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