The great multi vs mono debate

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by lo2jones

Sorry, but this place used to be a forum. It seems to be a chat room now. Allow other people to talk and limited posts to essential information might be a good idea.

Well, if you really believe this to be true, you should delete your post as it fails the essential information criterion.

But the crux of the issue is that we have little control of what is posted, save in the case that it contravenes one of the forum rules. The good news is that no one is obliged to read any post that he feels to be only chat, and if you find that some posters consistently offend you, there is an "ignore" function available. Use it and never again will your sensibilities be injured by that poster's failure to please you.

And finally, when serious questions are posted most often the good answers start appearing within minutes (if it is workin' hours in America where the majority of the posters are located). There's a LOT of useful technical and operational information posted every damn day, along with plenty of chat and other non-informational stuff.

I've looked at a few other sailing fora, and this one suits me best. Others can make their own choice.

Jim

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by chrisr

1m draft is really really nice when dodging bommies in the lagoon...

cheers,

I had a Wharram that had a 70cm draft, I would never go near a bommie closer in that vessel than I do on my current one that draws 2.4m. I go around bommies, not over them and particularly not light brown, shallow draft or not. If you are going over bommies that require you to have a 1m draft then you are going to screw up sooner or later, or you are a much better judge of depth than I ,and I doubt you are, I've done alot of it.

Does shallow draft have its advantages? Sure ,but no where near as much as some will have you belief, places like the Bahamas being an exception.

If I have another cat it will have dagger boards, for those few occasions when really shallow matters, in a mono I want deep draft, they sail better.

This guy in Fiji obviously needed less than 1m.

[Yihang]

Originally Posted by daletournier

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Aluminium Cat for the win？ The Allures 47.9 looks pretty damn good.

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by Yihang

Aluminium Cat for the win？ The Allures 47.9 looks pretty damn good.

When I grow up I want one.

[seamaiden]

There is a great deal of essential information embedded in what you call a "chat room." To me it is the art of conversation. And there is a great deal of information in the ebb and flow of conversing, as well as plenty of barebones information, technical and otherwise. Humans have a way of conveying information with conversation, stories which function as examples. The best forums contain conversation which is infused with information. This enriches the forum with exchanges of experience (another way to convey information). It is all about life lived. If you want the dry, barebones technical, "essential" information, by a technical guide, a boat building manual, an instruction manual on sailing. And just who is to decide what is "essential" information? What may be essential to one person may not be to another. We each have the choice to read or not to read.
All the forums I have read on this site are terrific. Wouldn't want to see them changed, limited.

Originally Posted by lo2jones

Sorry, but this place used to be a forum. It seems to be a chat room now. Allow other people to talk and limited posts to essential information might be a good idea.

[Rohan]

Originally Posted by chrisr

ever seen such on a mono ???

cheers,

Monohulls with lifting or swing keels can beach the same way. Best of both worlds. Unfortunately, not many boatmakers do this. Right now, that includes Seaward, Southerly, a couple of Jeanneau models, and some of the weird aluminum boats.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Rohan

Monohulls with lifting or swing keels can beach the same way. Best of both worlds. Unfortunately, not many boatmakers do this. Right now, that includes Seaward, Southerly, a couple of Jeanneau models, and some of the weird aluminum boats.

Apparently, quite a number in Europe.


There are Jeanneau and Benes this style. Then all Ovnis, except Cigale, Pogos, the UK Sotherlies, NL Bestevaers, etc. And then many others too.



Very many EU boat can take ground quite comfortably.


Come buy one.


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