Originally Posted by paulanthony
Everybody is able to give an opinion but it really is time for a common standard/specification.
Nobody really knows what bluewater means. Should the boat pop right back up after a role with any help from a sea? Should it be able to withstand being hit by a floating container? Should it have two engines?
It is truly discouraging that some folks still think in terms of somebody else doing their homework and research
The very same folks who ask this question are, most likely, the same libertarians who decry "government intrusion" and "too much regulation."
Look, it's simple, the answers are out there.
If you choose to look.
And if you choose to have an open mind.
There is an interesting and ongoing conversation on this very forum about a relatively new 38 foot cruiser by a reasonably reputable builder
. The new owners have been sharing information about their new BIG boats with each other for a few weeks. Many really good things have come of it.
Many really incredibly basic things have also shown up that are, in my opinion
, kinda, well basic sh*t from Boating 101
Like: "Why is my faucet water pump
running all the time?" "'Cuz you have two water tanks
, one is empty, and you have both valves open."
Are folks who are buying
this "prestigious" new BIG cruiser really all owners of only a boat as small and basic as a Catalina
22?!? Have they not realized that they have invested incredible sums of their own $$ and haven't done their homework on BIG BOAT systems? Many of the questions could have been answered by RTFM, which seemed to beyond many of them.
have baffled many of them. "Can I change the autopilot
so it doesn't steer curvy courses?"
Other questions and many of the input posts have been priceless in the quality of the material offered by the owners to share information that is unique to those new boats, and is highly commended.
What they have "missed" is that their posts on this forum (only) will essentially go "nowhere" because they haven't bothered to even start a Yahoo or Google
group and that information will be hard to find to other new owners who aren't aware of this forum. They should start a "group" or even their own website, not hard to do.
The "new" (a few years now) Catalina
355, which shares the same layout of our 30 year old boat, was invited to join our then-14 year old website. They declined and started their own Google
group and have been reinventing the wheel
since they started.
Point being, that certain issues are IDENTICAL to every boat made since the Phoenicians started cruising around the Med.
The physics of boat design haven't changed. Those folks who think this book eveolved only from wooden boats are missing the point.
The one thing that HAS changed is the SPEED of computing power. The INHERENT stability and layout and boat system issues discussed in the book that is the subject of this topic simply haven't changed.
I personally disagree with those who say they have.
Many of us "grew up" in boating
, with the proverbial "water and electrical
- nazi" fathers and learned to deal with issues in a marine environment
, rather than simply having a hull
that's supposed to act just like our house or a cabin
in the woods.
They're different, not by much, but different all the same.
And, in this internet age
, and to those of us who "grew up" WITHOUT the priceless information available, and had to read (Gasp!) books
and learn by trial and error, it is very strange indeed that they can't figure it out.
I know, I know, these kind of forums
are to exchange information. And,. they are truly a godsend for learning
But there's no substitute for:
BUY A BOOK
LEARN A LOT