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22-09-2018, 03:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: illinois
Boat: macgregor,mac 25,25ft,catalin 25
Posts: 14
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Swing keel
Help!!! I am going to do the great loop in a monohull macgregor 25 with a swing keel she will only have a 6ft mast for antenna and lights. The keel could stand some repair and I am going to motor around anyway if I keep the weight low and no sails do I really need the keel for this trip??? Thanks in advance Mike
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22-09-2018, 03:57
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 2,976
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Re: Swing keel
Looking at a drawing of the boat, I'd say the swing keel is not necessary for your purpose. Be aware though, that the rudder is going to hang down past everything else, so will be the first thing to run aground. Does it have the ability to kick up?
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zartmancruising.com
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22-09-2018, 04:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: illinois
Boat: macgregor,mac 25,25ft,catalin 25
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Re: Swing keel
Thanks for the reply yes the rudder does kick up as well as the motor
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23-09-2018, 16:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: illinois
Boat: macgregor,mac 25,25ft,catalin 25
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Re: Swing keel
Only 1 response to my question that I am thank full for?? I would have assume that the rest of you whom I have say have stuffed shirts for anything but a sailing purist could not reply and give an honest answer!!! Plan on doing the whole sailing gig after the loop and buying a larger vessel. Still have my original mast and would like a few more replies in regards to pulling keel out for this trip??
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23-09-2018, 16:39
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,155
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Re: Swing keel
Quote:
I would have assume that the rest of you whom I have say have stuffed shirts for anything but a sailing purist could not reply and give an honest answer!!!
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If you really want folks to give you the benefit of their knowledge and experience, you might want to retract the above statement.
This stuffed shirt is not motivated to be of service to you now.
Jim
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23-09-2018, 16:39
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lake City MN
Boat: C&C 27 Mk III
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Re: Swing keel
I could reply but I know nothing about the sailing or power boating in a mcgregor.
I don’t know if there are many owners of them on this forum.
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23-09-2018, 16:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: illinois
Boat: macgregor,mac 25,25ft,catalin 25
Posts: 14
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Re: Swing keel
Thanks aka none and benz was just a simple question if it would upset the stability of the boat no mast and keel gone was prob off kilter with previous stuff shirt statement would just like a few honest opinions about no mast and weight kept low I know they have water ballast vessels am on a tight budget and thought small macgregor could go around great loop fairly cheap was worried about handling without keel Mike
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23-09-2018, 17:07
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Annapolis MD
Boat: Building a Max Cruise 44 hybrid electric cat
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Re: Swing keel
We had a Hunter 240 very similar to the MacGregor 26. When the wind blew on the beam side, and you were trying to come into a dock, the keel helped keep the boat from sliding sideways and gave a lot of extra control. I'd keep it as there really is no reason I can see for removing it.
Matt
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23-09-2018, 17:58
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 2,976
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Re: Swing keel
You're welcome. But why would you want any more opinions after mine?
Sorry, couldn't resist....
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23-09-2018, 19:18
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
Posts: 20,490
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Re: Swing keel
Leave the keel on, you need some bite forward or the boat won’t turn well. If the keel is removed you just have a smooth hull forward the will want to “skid” thru turns and take them very wide.
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For all of your celestial navigation questions: https://navlist.net/
A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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24-09-2018, 07:17
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Join Date: Jan 2016
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Re: Swing keel
Who else is now googling "stuffed shirt"
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24-09-2018, 07:18
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
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Re: Swing keel
Not me, I knew he was being rude without looking it up.
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For all of your celestial navigation questions: https://navlist.net/
A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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26-09-2018, 08:40
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Swing keel
Really? Very common idiom afaic?
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26-09-2018, 08:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Southern MD, Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Catalina & Maycraft
Posts: 996
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Re: Swing keel
No offense intended, but I think most people are having trouble understanding your post. Is English your first language? The lack of punctuation and any logical sentence structure are jarring. Can you please re-phrase?
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26-09-2018, 10:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,075
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Re: Swing keel
Lose the rudder but keep the keel to deliver one more odd approach.
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