Stainless Steel Monohull 39

[Sailor_Hutch]

Wonder if any forum members have debated the merits of a boat like this:

1991 Trireme 38 MK IV Stainless Steel Sail Boat For Sale -

[Stumble]

Stainless (even titanium alloyed stainless) is not suitable for permanent immersion. And frankly I don't see any way to prevent the type of crevices that are major problems for stainless at sea.

The boat was built as a gimmick and marketing tool, and that's exacally what it was for years before being sold to the private market.

[hpeer]

Intriguing. This has been listed for a while so there seems to be a reason she has not been sold, the price is reasonable.

There do seem to be some others out there.

1966 bardiaux INOX Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

1974 Beister 13.50 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by Stumble

Stainless (even titanium alloyed stainless) is not suitable for permanent immersion. And frankly I don't see any way to prevent the type of crevices that are major problems for stainless at sea.

The boat was built as a gimmick and marketing tool, and that's exacally what it was for years before being sold to the private market.

I'd like to hear more of that story, if you have the time or a link.

[boatman61]

Won't just need a cruising budget... you'll need a polish budget...

[svHannabel]

Very interesting boat. Would it be paint-able? The listing states that the Titanium enriched 316L ss is extemely strong, but how does it compare to say grade A/AH32 steel?

[Sailor_Hutch]

I see now that this topic has been debated before ...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...t-72171-4.html

It seems that people float these SS boats in spite of the potential "crevice corrosion" problems. I guess this specific type of corrosion may possibly be hidden from surveyors. I wonder what a survey on the featured boat would look like ...

The boat's been floating around since 1993 ... how bad can it be?

It looks like her hull may be painted below the waterline, but the stainless looks bare above the waterline.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by Stumble

Stainless (even titanium alloyed stainless) is not suitable for permanent immersion. And frankly I don't see any way to prevent the type of crevices that are major problems for stainless at sea.

The boat was built as a gimmick and marketing tool, and that's exacally what it was for years before being sold to the private market.

If the bottom were coated with an epoxy barrier coat and bottom paint, I don't see a problem. It would take a course sandblasting with an immediate under coating to get it to stick but as long as it doesn't take a hit it should be fine.

Also there is a Monel boat built in 1967 that's been running around for some time now. >>> Copper.org: Copper Nickel : Asperida 70-30 boat hull

[Weyalan]

I read a book, recently about an English guy who sailed around the world north-south (as opposed to the more traditional west-east). I'm pretty sure his boat was stainless (originally built by a Frenchman who worked for Inox). The boat stood up to the rigors of the trip very well (wish I could remember the name of the book, though).

Its funny, though, how quickly people tar all stainless steel with the same brush... attributing everything with the same characteristics. 2205 duplex is about as similar to 316 as cheese to elephant...

[artic warrior]

Hi All,
I went to buy the trireme 38 that the op is talking about, she is called Barrabas
I eneded up buying a Damien lift keel instead,

[Reefmagnet]

DeLorean of sailboats.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by artic warrior

Hi All,
I went to buy the trireme 38 that the op is talking about, she is called Barrabas
I eneded up buying a Damien lift keel instead,

Personally, I wouldn't mind having it myself. After a self survey, of course. It's just on the wrong Island.

I've worked with exotic metals all my life and that would be a gem to me. I like steel too but it would have to be all new and prep'd properly as well. The object would be to keep the bottom well coated. The down fall to SS is it expands a lot with temp so the build would have to allow for that.

[Weyalan]

Barrabas is the stainless steel boat that Adrian Flanagan used in his attempt to sail vertically around the world, per my previous post... the name jogged my memory. The book is called, I think "Over the top".

[Sailor_Hutch]

Originally Posted by artic warrior

Hi All,
I went to buy the trireme 38 that the op is talking about, she is called Barrabas
I eneded up buying a Damien lift keel instead,

So, the keel was the only deciding factor? If your boat's name is indicative of your taste for exploration, then I suppose you were wary of the fin keel? Anyway, I know it's impolite to talk, but I'm extremely curious about this boat.

Minimally, she looks gorgeous, and I'm sure (based upon how famous the boat is) that she was well cared for. One of the other SS boats mentioned by Hpeer was offered at 300+ ... but is a 46 footer.

Can you talk? (just a little).

[homeless]

I considered buying this one. Price has been coming down, and it seems to be very solid, with a good inventory, and will probably be on the planet after I am gone. It has been for sale for a long time, so there may be some maintenance required.

My main hesitation is that it is 13,000kg, and a similarly sized aluminium yacht is half that weight. The stainless boat was purposely overbuilt, and I expect there was a significant cost in terms of speed.