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Old 18-11-2023, 12:54   #46
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Re: Should I don't buy the boat because of this?

RUN, do not walk, away from that boat.😱
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Old 18-11-2023, 13:58   #47
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RUN, do not walk, away from that boat.😱
why explain, if he use this boat 25-50 days and sink price is ok.
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Old 18-11-2023, 14:26   #48
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Let me make this simple for you.

Run, don't walk from this deal. It's easy to get attracted to the shiny stuff, but the stuff that counts needs to be 100% as well. Clearly, that is not the case here.
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Old 18-11-2023, 14:43   #49
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why explain, if he use this boat 25-50 days and sink price is ok.
That might be OK in Croatia but US waters of the east coast are littered with such half sunk junk abandoned by irresponsible idiots. . If you sink in a harbour and don't have insurance to bail you out, fines and cleanup costs can reach the hundreds of thousands of dollars in Canada and the US
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Don't be this guy...
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Old 18-11-2023, 15:21   #52
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That might be OK in Croatia but US waters of the east coast are littered with such half sunk junk abandoned by irresponsible idiots. . If you sink in a harbour and don't have insurance to bail you out, fines and cleanup costs can reach the hundreds of thousands of dollars in Canada and the US
not in Croatia if sink any depth you must pull up from sea. in usa is easy you sail 12 nm from land and safe sink boat or leave boat to float on golf strem. boat finish in GB . also in italy not possible, Now soon all old boat in Croatia must be converted on CE,complicated law and soon engine emision. We also have depend of boat state inspection all boat every year to 2 year. if you dont pay annual permit, lighthouse ,cost guard,tax,port autorithy governments delist your boat from register and you have boat without documentation, paid vat . simply huge problem.but also we are not police state like usa,if you sink boat who see you. i dont see policmen on sea and land maybe more 10 year.in my small town i newer see policemen and we don't have police station and we don't need. we have 20000 citizen and daily 30000 tourist
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but also we are not police state like usa,if you sink boat who see you. i dont see policmen on sea and land maybe more 10 year.in my small town i newer see policemen and we don't have police station and we don't need
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Old 20-11-2023, 08:12   #54
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Old 20-11-2023, 09:11   #55
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Today I went to see a beautiful boat, a Contest 30, it really look beautiful the interior wood (by the look of the wood it seems it has never got any water). But when I looked at the bilge area I saw some fixes and some broken fiberglass. I started sailing this year but I don't have the experience of owning a boat. This would be my first. I don't know if this means something wrong structurally or something, would this be something that someone would decide not to buy the boat?

I'll attach some pictures of the boat plus the pictures of the bilge area..
The boat has fin keel. Obviously took a substantial grounding. It took $20,000 to fix a 40’ boat that had a substantial grounding back in the 1980’s. I think you could be buying someone else’s problem.
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Old 20-11-2023, 10:36   #56
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The boat has fin keel. Obviously took a substantial grounding. It took $20,000 to fix a 40’ boat that had a substantial grounding back in the 1980’s. I think you could be buying someone else’s problem.
There is no "obviously" about it. The glasswork could easily be just sealing up the ballast. That is why I and many others said to get a survey.
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There is no "obviously" about it. The glasswork could easily be just sealing up the ballast. That is why I and many others said to get a survey.
FYI. A=Iy has a fin keel.
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FYI. A=Iy has a fin keel.
Obviously you did nor read all the posts. It has internal ballast.

What is A=Iy???
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Old 20-11-2023, 11:17   #59
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I suppose you could believe the old owner. If he really put the glass on in 2002 and there is no obvious heaving/bulging you could be ok for another 20 years.

I don’t like concrete ballast but I must say it is tough and relatively impermeable despite some comments here about turning to sand. I bought a 1972 fishing trawler with concrete ballast. The ballast was uncovered and constantly getting wet. Soaked in salt and fresh water for the 35 years before I bought it and it was fine.

I was worried about the space between the hull and the ballast but the ultrasound came back relatively clean. I ran that boat for 8 years with no issues up and down the east coast to the islands etc. I think the guy who bought it from me hammered it out.

Point is something that has lasted 50 years already may have some life left in her.
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Old 20-11-2023, 12:44   #60
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It will likely be the cheapest boat you own. It looks dry. Encapsulated means covered in fibreglass (or similar). More than likely it is. Just buy it and enjoy it.
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