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Old 07-07-2010, 20:02   #1
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Seeking Help to Identify Make / Model of 21' Sailboat

We recently bought a 21' fiberglass sailboat in Ontario, even though we did not know the make of the boat. The whole package
(boat, trailer, motor, sails, etc.) were in our opinion such a good deal that we couldn't pass it up. It needs a lot of work, but that is our plan-- work on it for at least a year, maybe more if it takes more, and fix it up nice, restore the interior, and learn to sail with it.

We were told that the boat was built in Komoka, Ontario, in 1984/85, and that it had been sailed only in the lakes, never in salt water. The part about "fresh
water only" seems accurate, but we have no concrete evidence for or against whether it was built in Komoka, or even in Canada. I haven't totally ruled out that the boat was a one-off or even homemade.

My Google-** is generally very good, but I have nearly worn off my fingertips searching for information or photos of a similar boat, to no avail.

The boat builders who were in business in Ontario around that time have mostly gone out of business.

I have not been able to find a HIN number on the transom as yet, but there is a lot of paint on the boat, so it may just be obscured, if it is there at all.
And I have peered inside all the nooks and crannies inside, and again, no name, numbers, or anything.

A picture is attached; it's approximately 21' 6" LOA and approx 7' BOA. It's got a drop/shoal keel about 4' long, a fiberglass hull, and glass-over-wood
deck/cabin. There's an olive green marine head to port, a small sink and front-opening ice-box/"fridge" to starboard, v-berth aft and a berth on each side of
the main cabin (sleeps 4). Ballast under the sole is rectangular lead blocks, and the original interior appears to have been a horrid looking black and yellow tartan pattern on the cushions, and some nasty orangy-yellow carpeting. The plexiglass windows seem to be original; one of them has an 'inspection' sticker from the Ontario Ministry of Environment, indicating the boat "is equipped with pollution control equipment" or something to that effect, and the sticker is dated 1984.

The boat (apparently), Trailcraft trailer, and Honda 7.5HP outboard w/generator are all of the same model year (1985), and seem to have been originally
purchased all together when new. The trailer was made in Canada (sticker on it), although the only Trailcraft trailers I have been able to find on the internet were made in Australia.

The boat itself appears to have had some modifications/additions which were not originally present: the bowsprit doesn't quite look like it was original equipment (maybe it was, not sure); there are dual side-stay chain-plates on both sides, attached externally to the cabin sides (abnormal?) as well as dual back-stay attachments on the transom, which definitely look like someone tacked them on in a hurry. It also appears that the boat lost its mast sometime, as the base is missing and the fiberglass is cracked where the mast base had been. Also (and this may be insignificant) I noted that some of the small stainless hardware is from a British company ("RWO Britain" stamped on it), but other pieces of deck hardware are labeled as Made in Canada. The boat may have been either red or blue in the past, as I see these colors under the green paint.

So, that's what I know at this time. Picture is attached below. Any help identifying this boat, or tips on where to look inside the boat for a name/number,
would really be much appreciated!


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Old 08-07-2010, 10:58   #2
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Thumbs up Looks like a homemade boat.


Several days ago I emailed Lee Sails in Ontario, with the serial number that was stamped on the jib sail, hoping they would have some records of the person or boat that the sail(s) were for..

An extremely helpful fellow named Bob Dyer wrote me back today, and told me the jib had been ordered in 1986 for a homemade boat, and provided me the name of the person who purchased it. Bob said that the Lee Sails dealer who sold the sail is now deceased, and he had no idea what the model of the boat might be, or whether there might be plans floating around somewhere by which it had been constructed.

Looks like we're on our own for now but if anyone out there recognizes the design, or this boat specifically, I'd still be really interested in hearing about it.

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Old 08-07-2010, 11:30   #3
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There used to be a boat building outfit in Komoka, ON called, interestigly enough, Komoka Boats. They built dinghies and small sailboats if I recall right. Another close by boat builder was Wilker Boats in Hyde Park, ON. but Wilker built only power boats. They are still in business. If you contacted them an "old timer" there might know something.
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Thanks Vasco,

I had not known of "Komoka Boats" but the seller of this boat mentioned something (perhaps that he believed the boat had been built in Komoka)) which led me to discover the name "KOMA Boats" of Ontario, which are also long gone out of business.

I just might try that 'old timer' idea and see if someone there who's been around the business for a long time, recognizes this design.

Since finding out it is (probably) 'homemade' I have adjusted my googling a bit, and the closest thing I have found now to this design, are some MacGregors-- the MacGregor plans from the late 70's and early 80's strongly resemble this boat; the differences could merely be due to the builder taking some liberties here and there and changing stuff to suit himself.

Thank you for the info; I'll post back on that if it turns up something.

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