Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-06-2017, 17:59   #31
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Yorktown, VA
Boat: 1984 Cal 31
Posts: 203
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

I agree that while it is an efficient use of the space, and I have always liked the idea of customizing a Cape Dory 25D if I had to sail alone, it doesn't seem like the best location for cruising if it is the only head.

An example where they got it right may be the Catalina 42 with the pullman berth. 1 head at foot of companionway, 1 in forepeak. Pullman is low, with a ton of headroom.

Just my .02$

Tankersteve
tankersteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 18:24   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 5,563
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

I would have never thought to criticize the location of our head, it is what it is, just foward of the mast.
You know the trick is to put little bumpers around the seat, keeps it from moving around.
model 10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 18:36   #33
Registered User
 
daletournier's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 4,578
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

I have the luxury of both a forward head and the other next to the companionway. No contest, underway the aft head is a clear winner!! In fact we don't go near the forward 3rd of the boat underway.
daletournier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 18:39   #34
Registered User
 
markpierce's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

A forward head isn't comfortable unless sailing in calm waters. b
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 18:46   #35
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Slidell, LA
Boat: Beneteau First 375
Posts: 452
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auspicious View Post
What's your point?
Well, that was a direct answer to the question posed in the OP.
sandy stone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 19:32   #36
Registered User
 
Lost Horizons's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Island Packet 349
Posts: 671
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auspicious View Post
I don't agree. Crew weren't treated like people when ships were wood and men were iron.

The place for a single head on a boat is at the base of the companionway. THE place. It's a place for bodily functions that is near the center of motion. It's a place to drop wet foulies without dragging water and salt through the boat. The watch can use the head or brush their teeth or clean eyewear without waking the boat.

A forward head is an easy and convenient design choice but not a good arrangement for cruising.
Considering how boats are typically used (stay in marinas, at anchor, fair weather day sailing, motoring in calm conditions), placing a head where you suggest - in the most desirable area of the hull - will have advantages less than 1% of time. Much less. And then you lose this premium midship space for other applications. Another consideration is how much time one spends in the head. For someone who only spends there 10 minutes a day, locating it in a premium space is inefficient. If one spends there two hours a day or more, however, it is indeed a different story.
I have crossed Gulf Stream while sleeping in a vee berth of a 34 foot boat once and would do it again, but I would rather move the berth closer to the companionway and put the head at the bow area to maximize the overall comfort.
Lost Horizons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 21:19   #37
Registered User
 
SSgtPitt's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Thhe boat is in Titusville, FL and we're back in CO for a few months resupplying the cruising kitty and raising money for our childrens dental charity www.sailing4smiles.com
Boat: 1982 Cape Dory 36 Hull #78
Posts: 656
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

I only have a couple years on me sailing with one trip across the Gulf so far and my Cape Dory 36 has a forward head. I must admit, a head at the bottom of the companion way makes way more sense. The forward head is a pain as you squeeze around the sittees, have to make your way forward around crew or gear while under passage or go below with wet gear and have to go forward to remove it. But then there is no perfect boat.
What space do you lose when the head is aft? I am a novice but after tons of research and checking out numerous beautiful boats, the one I bought was perfect for what we desired.
On mine, the nav station, a small berth and galley are RIGHT there at the bottom of the companionway. Which is perfect for making passage and tending to the real worries of "where am I" and "Feed me".
Besides, I have two heads on my boat; one below and the other anywhere the wind is at my back and my butt is strapped to the boat.
The Cape Dory is an outstanding sturdy boat for making passage......not so much for comfort and having parties.
SSgtPitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2017, 21:31   #38
Registered User
 
StuM's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43 and OPBs
Posts: 12,891
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost Horizons View Post
Exactly. I doubt they were asking a skipper to heave to while doing it.
A natural place for a toilet on a boat.
A natural place on a square rigger that doesn't go into wind!
Not so much for a modern vessel that spends a lot of time sailing into wind.
StuM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2017, 06:40   #39
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Keehi Lagoon, O'ahu
Boat: Pearson 424 Ketch
Posts: 158
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

I previously owned (bought new) a 1988 Hunter 33.5. The boat had a forward V berth cabin with a door. Immediately following aft was a vanity to port and a head/shower to starboard. The main cabin, galley, chart table was next with an aft cabin under the cockpit. The layout was a perfect lake boat for a family of 4, which we enjoyed for 20 years.
Kalinowski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2017, 16:32   #40
Registered User
 
jkindredpdx's Avatar

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35'
Posts: 1,200
Images: 5
Re: Sailboats with a Forward Head Layout

HR 35 Rasmus has a small port side forward head aft of the v-berth and opposite the hanging closet. Door to the head can close off all the above from the saloon and galley. Interior drawing of Hallberg-Rassy 35 - Rasmus
__________________
https://www.sednahr35.blogspot.com/ Jim K.
jkindredpdx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
boat, head, sail, sailboat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sailboats With An Open Forward Berth? blueyama Monohull Sailboats 62 05-06-2018 14:07
looking for any info on layout of head hoses for 1986 419 CC SAOIRSE419 Monohull Sailboats 0 11-04-2017 20:00
looking for any info on layout of head hoses for 1986 419 CC SAOIRSE419 Monohull Sailboats 0 11-04-2017 19:58
Any sailboats with a layout similar to this... MTLandlocked Monohull Sailboats 3 23-07-2013 19:55
design and layout a 2 Head System for a new build Capt Nemo Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 14 11-01-2013 12:58

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:24.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.