Rugged High Latitude Boats?

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Hoodsail

Nothing substantive to add, just enjoy viewing the links to hi 6 to 7-figure boats...but the systems required to run same (electric winches, electric throttle controls, dual engines-plus 1 for redundancy) have me concerned as i am busy enof with 1 diesel, manual winches, fixed keel w/ cb, one rudder, one wheel, 2 sails (& occasional gennaker), 1 head, and no water ballast. Admittedly my "expeditions" are comprised of 1 to 2. Altho your description of last summer's trip pushing aside sea ice would make me want metal vs plastic and water tight compartments too...Good luck in your hunt and keep those links coming...thanks dave

Cheers.


But this IS substantive, and relevant not only to this type of boat.


I spend too much of my cruising time fixing things, although bless my dear boat, she gave me practically no trouble of any kind on the very hard and very long trip last summer.


But that is the exception.



In the next boat I want proper crew quarters so that I can have someone on board whose job will be to maintain and repair things, rather than me.


I very well understand some sailors' inclination to minimalism. It is easy to become a slave to your systems.

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by mitiempo

I don't believe Garcia ever did the decks in fiberglass. You might be thinking od Alures.

Just looked it up again.... it's the dodger and coach roof (cabin top) that's made of fiberglass. They've only done this on the Exploration series.

Exploration 60 - Swiftsure Yachts

DH... the bow and stern of the Garcia are watertight.

Matt

[Matt Johnson]

The Pelagic 63 might be a contender as well. If you're not familiar with them, they are Tony Castro's design for Skip Novak. But the best part.... K&M is building one soon (bigger version), so you could see it first hand and decide from there.

Pelagic Yachts 72

PS... spending your money is a fun game

Matt

[wolfgal]

DH,

i'm guessing you've seen this video where Skip Novak does a tour of his boats.

what i truly love on both of his boats is the workshop areas forward.

it seems to me that, if anyone would know where to find the type of boat you are seeking, it would be Skip Novak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oFuFP6RegQ

wolfgal

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

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DH... the bow and stern of the Garcia are watertight.

Matt

Bah, the bow and stern of my boat are watertight. That doesn't count.

That boat is built for the far North all right - the far North of the Brest yacht club basin. My present boat is more of an expedition boat than that - that would be a step back.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

The Pelagic 63 might be a contender as well. If you're not familiar with them, they are Tony Castro's design for Skip Novak. But the best part.... K&M is building one soon (bigger version), so you could see it first hand and decide from there.

Pelagic Yachts 72

PS... spending your money is a fun game[emoji2]

Matt

Now yer talking. That is VERY good.

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Now yer talking. That is VERY good.

Yeah it's not bad.... Hard to see with the renders, but It looks like a pretty modern hull design without the bad characteristics of some of the others.

I still think you should go bargain shopping and buy that Furtuna 54 Explorer.

https://www.ayc-yachtbroker.com/futuna-54-explorer

You can't see in the layout photos, but the forward head has a watertight door to the master cabin.









It's interior is pretty modern, but at least it's not in dark teak.

Matt

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by Psy at SEA

Maybe not high enough.... but I like it!!


https://www.inautia.com/used-boat-27...535010245.html

Twin engines, I presume twin props. That’s a big no-no for ice generally.

[hpeer]

This guy does charter trips to NW Greenland. He is a Dutch yacht Designer by trade. He may have a few thoughts for you. He also assists somehow with the Morgan’s Cloud site. I think they were working on a 40’ design that this fello had some input into.

https://bagheerasailing.com

Dock,

I like expedixtion yachts but not of that size. Wow! But then I could never find 4 people who would agree to be with my grumpy self for that amount of time.

[faragaki]

https://www.owenclarkedesign.com/20m...e-water-cruisi

I didn't see this one on the list.

How many boxes does this one tick off?

Jeff

[Yellow bird]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

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Generally, the spec is:

About 60-65' on deck, preferably not more.


Very strongly built aluminum hull, watertight compartments. Must be metal -- this is a deal breaker.

Ice class would be nice

Pilothouse -- a must.

Abundant technical space and deck storage -- a must -- typical series-produced cruising boat arrangement like what I have now is not suitable.

Lifting keel would be good.

Very good sailing qualities -- so no full keel, heavy displacement.

Accommodation for a reasonable expedition -- so at least three double cabins plus crew quarters. I have this now! In a 54' boat. So ought to be possible on a 65' boat even with the addition of the abundant technical and deck space.

Any ideas? I guess this doesn't exist and I will have to custom build, but I will be happy to be shown wrong.

https://www.berthon.co.uk/yacht-for-...ironbarque.pdf

I know,
Steel, no alu
No Pilothouse
No lifting keel
But, no doubt a solid hight latitude boat.

And please, can I have your opinion on Boreal
https://www.boreal-yachts.com/?lang=en

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Black Eagle

https://www.berthon.co.uk/yacht-for-...ironbarque.pdf

I know,
Steel, no alu
No Pilothouse
No lifting keel
But, no doubt a solid hight latitude boat.

And please, can I have your opinion on Boreal
https://www.boreal-yachts.com/?lang=en

I like Boreal yachts. I spent some hours on one (a 47 IIRC) on a layover in the Kiel Canal a few years ago. I very much liked the inside helm position and the little pilothouse. The boat had a lot of quirky but thoughtful details (like a special below-decks outboard motor storage well). Unlike the Bestevaers, the cabin below the pilothouse is not all below decks -- there is still a doghouse over the salon, so it's kind of pilot house PLUS deck salon, rather than instead. However, the pilothouse of the 47 is very small.


I don't know about the larger Boreals -- the 68 seems to be vaporware, with no arrangement plans or photographs. Sounds like a very nice boat -- maybe I'll write and ask for plans.




Concerning the Challenge boats -- I know these well; there is a whole fleet of them based in the Solent which are sailing year around, so I frequently meet them in different places. I've been on board -- they are strong, no-nonsense boats for large crews, but they are more like racing boats -- the accommodation space is entirely below decks with very little in the way of light or ventilation, so very little of anything you could call comfort. That one is awfully nice -- looks like someone spent a ton of money on her, so someone will get a good deal.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by faragaki

https://www.owenclarkedesign.com/20m...e-water-cruisi

I didn't see this one on the list.

How many boxes does this one tick off?

Jeff

Qilak was mentioned in one of the early posts.


Nice boat, although incredibly ugly to look at. Designed very much for the purpose I have in mind.


They run charters with six guests:


http://www.qilak.com/en/

[Eleuthera 2014]

Hi Dockhead,

I may have a "lateral" thinking idea for you. See your PM's.

Cheers

[Eleuthera 2014]

Hello Sailor,

We have done 1/2 our RTW and now docked at Marsden Cove Marina in New Zealand. I'd seen your post regarding a new vessel for you.

While strolling the docks, one of my neighbours has such a high Lat boat. We chatted for a few moments and he gave me a few snippets of info. He has taken the vessel to Antarctica and says his boat is amazing and reliable. I will get more info and take photos for your perusal. The boat was designed by Chuck Payne and built in NZ... having seen the high qual of their alu boats, I'd say they ARE EQUIVALENT TO DUTCH!

Given the exchange rate, the low manpower costs, you may save considerable dosh even if it means cost of transporting to Europe... viewing the progress could be more difficult though.. perhaps get a build manager??



Cheers,