Cruisers Forum

  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-12-2014, 11:51   #1
Registered User
Dr. Sea's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Annapolis/Caribbean
Boat: Oyster 55
Posts: 304
Retractable keel vs. 2 meter fin

I'm planning a voyage in a couple of years from BVI to Australia through the Panama Canal with many stops along the way. I own a Beneteau 50 that is coming out of the Sunsail fleet. I'm debating between adding the necessary equipment to it to make it proper for that kind of water sailing">blue water sailing (AIS, watermaker, windvane, solar, hydrogenerator, etc.) or selling it and buying something like an Ovni with a retractable keel/centerboard and adding the necessary equipment to it. The Beneteau is an extremely comfortable boat with enormous tankage and storage capacity, but it has a 2 meter bulbed keel that will probably give it a 7 foot draft by the time the boat is fully loaded. I'm concerned that this draft will give me problems in some shallow anchorages and especially in places like the Tuamotus. I'm interested in the opinions of experienced cruisers.
Dr. Sea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-12-2014, 12:45   #2
Registered User
Kousk Eol's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Grenoble, France
Boat: Wauquiez Centurion 45s - 45ft
Posts: 3
Re: Retractable keel vs. 2 meter fin

I personally own a 45ft sailboat with a 2.5m keel. With my brother, we are engaged in a cruise around the world, via Cape Horn. This was a deliberate choice: not only you achieve much better performances under sail, but a retractable keel is for me an additional area to watch as potential problem source, especially for a long trip.
As usual, this is a matter of compromise: decide what exactly you really want...
A 2.5m keel will definitely not allow you to beach! But in terms of performance at see, there is no comparison: 180 NM per 24h is quite standard for us, even when wind is coming from ahead...
We are now 12000 NM from home (France), crossed Atlantic and went around Cape Horn, and the channels of Patagonia, and never regretted our choice.
Again: everything is a matter of compromise. No bad choice: just decide where you are ready to compromise...

Note: excuse my english (not my mother tongue!).
Skipper on Kousk Eol
Kousk Eol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-12-2014, 12:58   #3
Freelance Delivery Skipper..
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 25,805
Images: 2
pirate Re: Retractable keel vs. 2 meter fin

I'd go for the Ovni..
Not saying the Bene's no good.. just really like Ovni's, Garcia's and their kin.. great downwind sailers and not bad upwind.

Born To Be Wild.. Double Click on the picture.
boatman61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16-12-2014, 16:24   #4
roverhi's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kona, Hawaii, Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1969 Pearson 35 #108 & 1976 Sabre 28
Posts: 7,357
Send a message via Yahoo to roverhi
Re: Retractable keel vs. 2 meter fin

The Ovni's are a true go anywhere boat that have been out there and done it. The Beneteau is not in the same league. Should do okay for the voyage you contemplate but wouldn't want to go to high latitudes or sail the southern ocean in one. Also wouldn't want to take any deep fin, bulb keel boat anywhere where there are things that will latch on to it like lobster traps or kelp. Of course, the Beneteau doesn't cost nearly as much as a similar sized Ovni.

The Ovni is a centerboard(s) boat, not a drop keel. There is some hardware that goes with the centerboard(s) but they don't require the engineering and heavy stuff to lift that a drop keel does. A deep keel has an advantage going to weather but once you crack off, you are just dragging around a lot of deadweight and keel depth that will limit your inshore venturing. Have averaged over 140nmpd on my short waterline boat with only a 3'10" draft.
Peter O.
'Ae'a, Pearson 35
'Ms American Pie', Sabre 28 Mark II
roverhi is offline   Reply With Quote


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wing Keel vs Fin Keel . . . Confused . . . Velma Monohull Sailboats 30 03-11-2016 10:04
Fin Keel? Long Keel? Jeff? bob_deb Monohull Sailboats 89 13-03-2012 11:28
Fin Keel vs. Full Keel Rayallyn Monohull Sailboats 201 04-09-2011 04:14
Twin keel v Fin keel, pro's n con's ? Davegw Monohull Sailboats 6 12-02-2009 03:08
Full Keel or Fin Keel? RedDragonSails Monohull Sailboats 23 06-10-2008 12:09

Advertise Here

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:08.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.