Prospective boat lacks a few systems

[mitiempo]

Originally Posted by Dave22q

For American waters you need to rewire all of your A/C circuits because the lower American voltage means you are pushing twice as many amps. You might have to adjust your engine alternator and your battery charger for American input. None of this is cheap if you use a qualified tech but saving money on that might cost you your boat or worse in a fire. For equipment start with the Defender website to see costs and options. My understanding is that rewiring European boats for American waters is not cheap. You may also need to replace all of your AC equipment if you have any.

"...adjust your engine alternator...for American input." ????

That makes no sense at all.

As for the rest the simple solution is to install an isolation transformer such as the Victron which will accept any worldwide voltage and output 120 volts -or 240 volts if desired. The bonus is there will be no physical connection to shore power so eliminates corrosion issues from other boats as well.

[mitiempo]

Originally Posted by aquadreams

I've put together a spreadsheet for myself last month. I'm a couple years from buying a boat but I expect it will be missing systems and I wanted to know ballpark costs. Here are some ballparks costs and the links for them. Take it with a grain of salt since it may not be what you're looking for, you can by cheaper used, etc, etc. But hopefully can be a starting point for you. The links might help you shop around yourself and adjust sizes for your needs.

RIB inflatable
$5,433
AB Inflatables Navigo 12 VS gray (6 person, 12')
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|215570|1794282|1831365&id=3338389

Outboard motor
$2,683
Tohatsu 15 HP 4-Stroke Outboard Motor
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|215570|1794283|1794302&id=3367969


Water maker
$4,895
Katadyn Powersurvivor 80 E
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Powersurvivor-80-Watermaker-Desalinator/dp/B000F3CH08/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SAFJE0G TR6SFZV2TNKE3
Water maker maintenance kit
$340
PowerSurvivor 80E Extended Cruise Kit
Watermaker repair kit
$140
PowerSurvivor 80E Repair Seal Kit

The PowerSurvivor 80E is discontinued in favor of the Spectra Ventura 150

[aquadreams]

> The PowerSurvivor 80E is discontinued in favor of the Spectra Ventura 150

Thanks mitiempo. Ballpark pricing (quick search and not shopping around) for Spectra 150 and 200 is at
https://www.seatechmarineproducts.co...s-watermakers/

They have the same prices for the 24V models.

Spectra Watermakers Ventura 150 12V System Deluxe
SKU:
VT-150-D-12


$6,295.00 $5,599.99


Spectra Watermakers Ventura 150 12V System MPC
SKU:
VT-150-MPC-12


$8,995.00 $7,999.99


Spectra Watermakers Ventura 200 12V Deluxe
SKU:
VT-200-D-12


$6,795.00 $5,999.99

Spectra Watermakers Ventura 200 12V MPC
SKU:
VT-200-MPC-12


$9,550.00 $8,499.99

[crosswire]

I know of one boat with euro wiring that tried a step up transformer to change 120 vac to 240 vac. The intent was to save possible wiring changes. The end result was that the transformer created more problems than it was worth. Before rewiring, however, check the gauge of the wires on the boat now. Euro standards may have required minimum wire sizes that would be still be adequate with the voltage/amperage change to 120 volts.

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by Wallaby

My answer is as vague as your question. Also, these are the obvious items. There are very likely many non-obvious issues. You might get some change from $100K if someone else does it.

Just the generator can set you back over 10K.

[SV Bacchus]

Originally Posted by hamburking

I can understand most of those items...but why would you want to make it dingy? Gloomy and drab is the opposite of what I would install, but could be done for next to nothing.

Love it! Good catch..

[Cheechako]

Well, details details but I think some of the numbers answered are close. The biggest discrepancy will be self install or pro install? For self install:

Water Maker = $5k
Generator =$8k
Air conditioning Why? for at the dock or for anytime?
dingy =$5k for a decent one and motor. Less used of course.
Freezer= $2500 WAG

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by jimp1234

I've found a 45 ft. cruising boat that I like but she lacks a few items. I'd appreciate a "ballpark" cost as well as a favorite for the items below. Btw, the boat has European electrics 230v/12v if that makes a difference. TIA

-Jim

Water Maker
Generator
Air conditioning
dingy
Freezer

Jim,

I'll share our experiences on our Nauticat 52 even though the critics/trolls will, in all probability, give me a hard time...

Spectra 16gph Watermaker - $12k installed, including haul-out;

Northern Lights Generator - $15k self-installed/direct replacement;

Flagship Marine Air-Conditioning - $20k installed, 3 units in three cabins. Very tricky installation. I would definitely choose different units if doing it again.

Mercury Ocean Runner w/Yamaha T9.9 - $6k

Adler Barbour Plate Freezer - $4k including new holding plate and condenser unit.

All the work was performed on the West coast (Seattle/San Diego). Hope this helps in some way...

[Outlaw7]

Hello, A question n your A/C purchase. What was difficult on the installation?
What would you do different?

[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Raven Odyssey

Jim,

I'll share our experiences on our Nauticat 52 even though the critics/trolls will, in all probability, give me a hard time...

Spectra 16gph Watermaker - $12k installed, including haul-out;

Northern Lights Generator - $15k self-installed/direct replacement;

Flagship Marine Air-Conditioning - $20k installed, 3 units in three cabins. Very tricky installation. I would definitely choose different units if doing it again.

Mercury Ocean Runner w/Yamaha T9.9 - $6k

Adler Barbour Plate Freezer - $4k including new holding plate and condenser unit.

All the work was performed on the West coast (Seattle/San Diego). Hope this helps in some way...

Thanks for posting that info.

What was the size or output (KW) of the generator?

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by Outlaw7

Hello, A question n your A/C purchase. What was difficult on the installation?

What would you do different?

The installation location of each unit and the ductwork are what made the whole thing a bit tricky.

As large as our boat feels, and as much storage as we have, we found that there were very few places that were suitable for the units. In the end, we had to build/alter some of the cabinetry in order to conceal them. This, of course, had the trickle down effect of making some of the ductwork extremely difficult - mainly due to working in some very tight spaces.

If I were to do it again, I might not...haha! At the very least, I would not purchase Flagship Marine air conditioning. I haven't been happy with them at all. Ironically, when one of them failed in July, we bought a roll-around home unit. It works so well that I haven't even used the recently repaired onboard unit.

Hope this helps a little.

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by Steady Hand

Thanks for posting that info.



What was the size or output (KW) of the generator?

7.5kw...

[boatman61]

Someone mentioned a figure of $5.5K for dinghy and outboard.. Crazeee...!!!
A 5hp ob and a slat floor roll up inflatable dingy will run you a quarter of that.. gets you back and forth just as efficiently and lessens your load on the boat.
Unless of course you like big aluminium ribs and 15hp engines that do 10+ knots.

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Someone mentioned a figure of $5.5K for dinghy and outboard.. Crazeee...!!!
A 5hp ob and a slat floor roll up inflatable dingy will run you a quarter of that.. gets you back and forth just as efficiently and lessens your load on the boat.
Unless of course you like big aluminium ribs and 15hp engines that do 10+ knots.

Some people use their dinks for more that short shore trips. A roll up and 5hp would not suit me at all, but I'm glad it works for you.