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Old 30-10-2010, 04:52   #46
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Aft cockpit sloops look more lovely in my opinion.

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Old 30-10-2010, 09:56   #47
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cencer vs aft cockpit? Have both

Here is a anew project of mine that has two cockpits.
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Old 30-10-2010, 10:24   #48
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Here is a anew project of mine that has two cockpits.
Very interesting, Bob. Looks like a 50 footer. And beautiful lines, of course.

A couple of questions:

1. why no second steering station in the center cockpit?

2. has the interior layout been decided upon?
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Old 30-10-2010, 10:27   #49
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nice boat.
i like my aft cockpit but i miss having a quarter berth or aft cabin......boats are compromises. i wouldnt trade mine for anything....
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Old 30-10-2010, 10:45   #50
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We have a layout.
We have a very nice aft steering sttion. The CCis for relaxing and dining.
It is a very custom design so the fetures reflect the owners preference.
LOA is 57'.

Hag:
We have an aft cabin.
We have two quarter berths.
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Old 30-10-2010, 12:58   #51
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Here is a anew project of mine that has two cockpits.
You toying with us Bob?
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Old 30-10-2010, 13:13   #52
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Speedy:
We have a layout.
We have a very nice aft steering sttion. The CCis for relaxing and dining.
It is a very custom design so the fetures reflect the owners preference.
LOA is 57'.

Hag:
We have an aft cabin.
We have two quarter berths.
bob perry--please call me zee---i adore your designs -- always have. she is awesome.
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Old 30-10-2010, 13:35   #53
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OK;
Zee. Many thanks for the kind words. When I get a quiet moment I may post the layout. But it will unleash a torrent of questions that most of the time can only be answered by saying "Because that's the way the client wanted it." i.e. the nature of "custom design".

Letbme think on it a bit. Tomorrow is Sunday.I think I have scheduled a good mood for late Sunay afternoon. For now it's back to Saturday Aftternoon at the Opera on CBC2.
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Old 30-10-2010, 13:48   #54
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I don't mind the 2 cockpits in that design. Once you are that size, and understand what cruising is all about, it may well look great!
One place for sailing, primarily, and one other place for living.
One of the difficult things we always had was the number of diffrent personal 'spaces'. When looking at real estate I always look at a home as the number of living spaces. At sea its often just 2: cockpit and saloon. Where can someone go for 1) space from her drongo husband; 2) a different view.

So with this new design its quite obvious the guy has 2 comfortable spaces and the girl has the dinghy.

I have this feeling that 45 feet to 55 ft and up to 60 if designed for it, is perfect for cruising


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Old 30-10-2010, 14:13   #55
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Speedy:
We have a layout.
We have a very nice aft steering sttion. The CCis for relaxing and dining.
It is a very custom design so the fetures reflect the owners preference.
LOA is 57'.

Hag:
We have an aft cabin.
We have two quarter berths.
Bob, I think we all knew it was a custom design. Please don't assume that the questions/comments are criticism, I just like to understand design features that we don't usually see. Any boat you draw is certainly worth understanding and appreciating.
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Bob, that is such a really clever idea! Its like the Swiss Army knife of boats.

If (and that is a BIG if) I ever change boats I will definitely be looking for a CC. A Tayana 48 would do nicely...
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Old 30-10-2010, 14:25   #57
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No wories there. I'm thick skinned. I do hoever get a bit tired of ad naueum having to explain that the intent was NOT to design another beneteau. But you asked so nicely.
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no one mentioned it so I will have a go, privacy. CC - more privacy to the living quarters. no one watching you from the cockpit hatches. activity in the saloon/ galley is separated.
If you are single handling - not a big issue, if there are a couple of people on the boat - not so fun to wake up when ever someone decides to make a cup of coffee.
Cons - deck storage.
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Old 30-10-2010, 15:03   #59
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I think you nailed it for this design.
The boat will be sailed by a couple wit an ocassional extra couple or maybe three people as guests. Te nusiness end of the boat isn the smll aft cckpit. The CC is the "please pass me another Margurita" where you lay around but you dont have touch any lines.

Maybe I can find a deck plan for you guys that will help you understand the deck layout better.

I am happy to answer any questions. If I get testy and defensive it is because for the last four months I have worked day and night on this design I know every inch of it intimately. So what on the face of it may sound like testyness and defensiveness may in fact only only be testyness and defensiveness. If you think of a change PLEASE first think of all the other components your change will require changing.

The boat is currently out for bid and we are waiting for two more bids. We are very interested in more if you have a yard in mind that would like a nice big job and can deliver at a reasonable price.
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A real beauty (as always) Bob,
That overhang, with the protected seating for the aft cockpit is a great feature.
Admired that idea since I first saw Phil Rhodes' Thunderhead.
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