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Old 04-07-2017, 18:18   #31
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re: People selling boats.

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My pet peeves:

1. Stock photos from the manufacturer. What the hell? If I wanted to see how the brand new boat looked, I would be looking at new boats. The original layout diagram is very useful though.

2. Clutter. Why are you taking a photo of a boat interior with pill bottles, dirty dishes in the sink, etc? Clear out the junk, or at least make it look tidy.
Or images of a "sister ship"....really?
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Old 04-07-2017, 18:32   #32
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PortClydeMe:
Why wait until price drops to $399K. Make offer Now ("no haggling"). Perhaps a sale. Perhaps not... but then he still has your number when he wants to drop price.
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Old 04-07-2017, 18:44   #33
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re: People selling boats.

How to sale a boat?
1) Critically review your boat.
2)Make a list of all "squawks".
3)Repair essential "squawks"
4)Detailed listing with multiple good photos. Rate condition BELOW actual condition(i.e. condition 5 on 10 scale)....Underpromise... When prospective buyer arrives and mentally tells himself "I would rate this boat a 7", then you are almost there.
5)Know what the market has listed and especially which boats are "competitors" to yours
6)List at a price that is below all other competitors prices, with reasonable adjustments for variation of equipment.

Serious buyers will know the asking prices for your competitors and you have if listed realistically, will buy at your listed price.
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Old 04-07-2017, 19:47   #34
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PortClydeMe:
Why wait until price drops to $399K. Make offer Now ("no haggling"). Perhaps a sale. Perhaps not... but then he still has your number when he wants to drop price.
Why? Because I'm watching many boats, and there are many on the market. When (and if) it drops to $399K, then that is when I make my "offer". Offer is the key word. Or, they can just keep it, which they do not want to do.

That aside, has anyone else noticed that Hinckley as basically stopped being a sailboat company? Yes, still available, yet every e-mail they send me advertises their "Sunday lunch" jet boats, and expensive Sunday lunch boats they are. Being from Maine, I'm somewhat sad that they stopped being the great sailboat company that Hank, and I, loved in the past. Oh well. Time moves on.
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Old 04-07-2017, 21:24   #35
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Fact is most people don't understand marketing. I'm no expert at it either but, whenever I do sell something, I am usually able to get at or near full asking price when I take the time to build the ad with detail and plenty of pics... vs if I just put together a simple ad.

I guess the sellers really aren't interested in fetching full market value for their boat.

The other thing I find funny about sellers is the price their asking. $500K for a 10-15 year old 45' cat. Hahahahaha. Why waste time selling your boat if you're not serious about it? The only reason I took interest in my the purchase of my boat two years ago is because the owner presented the specs, description, and photos correctly AND because the price he was asking was reasonably in market-range for that year and make of boat. I paid him full asking price.
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Old 05-07-2017, 07:56   #36
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I think this ad may be more to your liking then...

Liveaboard Cruising Catamaran For Sale

Immaculate & spacious make this sailing cat perfect for LIVING THE DREAM! Affordable price for this loved & well cared for 11.5 meter, known as the big 'little cat'. Built in South Africa, sailed to the Caribbean, now in the Bahamas. Always owner operated, NEVER CHARTERED.

The Wildcat 350 MK3 is the latest in a large range of modern catamarans designed by Schionning Boats of Australia, built in South Africa by Charter Cats SA. Wildcats are renowned for their safety, high levels of comfort, and their speed. Built with quadriaxial fibreglass and balsa core, the Wildcat 350 is a fast sports cruiser that will tack through 90°. According to the designer, she will sail at 8 - 10 knots to windward and 10 - 13 knots off the wind with a No.1 Genoa in a 15 knot breeze. Sails are by North Sails, hardware by Harken and Anderson.

With 18 opening ports and hatches you will be cooled by the gentle Caribbean breeze whilst in the salon or in your cabin.

The bathrooms are forward of the fore cabins, so the Wildcat Mk III suits 2 couples (1 in each hull) perfectly, or 2 couples plus up to 4 children or a captain and crew.

This catamaran is perfect for island hopping and Caribbean cruising, or ocean crossings. Now is your opportunity to sail the world. And the Wildcat Mk III is perfect for long range and blue-water sailing. With her rounded, streamlined hulls she has much less windage from the side. Unlike most production cats, with their high freeboards and flat sides that look and act like the side of a barn, the Wildcat allows cross winds to blow over and around her. This means she takes side winds on the sails, where they are supposed to be, not on the hull. The rounded hulls also mean that should any waves come over the bow and onto the deck they are shed quickly off every side, giving you immediate control and agility.

The Wildcat Mk III offers a very comfortable use of space due to her impressive beam, with a larger interior than most 42' catamarans.

Sail Quest has solar, windgen, radar, chartplotter, sonar, SSB, electric windlass, and tons more.

Extended transoms offer better performance along with stack pack main, furling genoa (120% jib) and gennaker/reacher with sock. Ample cockpit, extra large settee in the salon, bright galley with ample cupboards and large chart table/workspace in the port hull.

The Wildcat has almost 800 square feet of deck space: relax in the nets or lounge on the deck whilst she sails without heeling over - your own flying magic carpet!

Performance and comfort in this Wildcat MK 3 make her perfect for safe ocean crossings, zip between islands or running up and down coastlines. Very seaworthy capable of sailing around the world having already sailed from South Africa to South America, North America, and the Caribbean. Easily handled with all lines led to cockpit for single handing or handling a crowd. Never chartered, and well maintained by a few perfectionists. Many upgrades with Cherrywood bulkheads, doors, trim, hardwood floors throughout. Large salon with galley up design makes it a pleasure to cook. Seamless molded counter with sink and draining board. Custom made salon table easily seats 8 - 10 and converts to bed for two adults or four children. Glass sliding entrance doors for tons of natural light and easy entrance and exit to the cockpit. 4 private queen cabins each with fan, new LED lighting, USB charging outlets, QI wireless phone charging station, alarm clock, digital thermometer, built-in bluetooth speakers, shelves and cabinets, hooks, opening portlight, large Weaver deck hatch with Sunbrella sunshade and insect screen for comfortable sleeping. 2 heads, with showers and new Jabsco toilets. Lots of storage.

The hull itself is light and strong, and very elegantly designed. Due to the high strength of quadraxial glass and 3/4" balsa coring, the hull sides are so strong they feel like a solid wall. The whole boat can stand comfortably on its keels while hauled out, or when simply run up on the beach for the night. Sailing performance is excellent due to the light weight and smooth hulls, even with the moderate load of cruising equipment currently on-board. For racing, the load can be quickly reduced by removing half the house battery bank, and offloading the drogue and some ground tackle; the huge sail area makes this a formidable race boat. Catamarans have no hull speed limit; the previous owner has gotten the boat up to 18 knots with a 45 knot tail wind. The speed and the space make this an excellent cruising boat: on her ocean voyages 180-200 miles a day is a commonplace.

Many extras added in spring/summer 2016. Top of the line Rutland silent wind generator and 1310 watts of solar panels keep the batteries completely charged.

March 2017 has just seen the addition of a new 120 volt watermaker that outputs a whopping 140 liters (37 gallons) per hour. This allows you to live like you are in a home, and not have to conserve water.

A perfect choice for cruising in style and/or living aboard. Owners willing to teach you how to operate all systems. Easy access to all systems and engines. Many amenities, extras, spares. Amazing opportunity to own a 'tiny house' on whichever waterfront you desire. She is light and bright and you will fall in love with her at first glance!!!

Currently sailing in The Bahamas. Come see it and we'll take you out for a sail. Will teach you everything about the boat, even teach you how to sail.


Builder/DesignerCharter Cats SA
Year/Model

2004 Wildcat MK III
Dimensions
Length:
LOA 11.5m (37' 9")
LWL 11.3m (37')

Beam: 20' 11"

Draft: 1.2 meter (3' 11")
42cm keels,
78cm hull depth to waterline

Air draft: 57' from waterline
Mast height - 47' 10" from base to flat top of mast
VHF antenna adds 38"
Base of mast to waterline - 72"
Engine
2 x 30 HP Diesels
Stbd: Volvo-Penta MD2030-D 3 cylinder 30 horsepower naturally aspirated diesel engine with an MS25S sail drive (2932 hours)
Port: 2012 Perkins 403D-11 3 cylinder 30 horsepower naturally aspirated diesel engine with an MS25S sail drive (200 hours on engine, 2055 hours on meter)

All units fully serviced 2016

Accommodation

Sleeps 10
  • 8 in 4 queen staterooms
  • 2 in main salon (convertible king+ bed)
Heads
2 @ Full heads with manual toilet, vanity and shower
2 @ Jabsco 29090-3000 Manual Marine Head, Twist and Lock Toilet (Dec 2016)
  • Stbd head to holding tank
  • Port head overboard
Galley
  • Galley-up layout
  • 2-burner propane stove
  • Igloo 150 liter side-by-side stainless steel Refrigerator/Freezer (2016)
  • Newair 12kg/day ice maker (2016)
  • Trident Marine LP Gas Control System (2016)
  • 120 Volt Watermaker (March 2017):
    • Rainman Pressure Supply Unit
    • Rainman 37 Gph High Output Reverse Osmosis Membrane
    • Rainman Pressure Washer Attachment
    • StarVast Digital TDS Meter w/storage case (2016)
    • HM Digital SM-1 In-Line TDS Monitor (2016)
  • Ambassador Marine Universal Collection Pull-Out Galley Faucet with Soap Dispenser, Brushed Nickel (2016)
  • Black & Decker TO1303SB oven (2016)
  • Magma Products A10-366-MR-2-IN Gourmet "Nesting" 10-Piece Magma Red Stainless Steel Induction Cookware Set with Ceramica Non-Stick (2016)
  • Ambient Weather WS-09 8-Channel Alarm (2016)
  • 3 @ Ambient Weather Wireless Refrigerator / Freezer Thermometer (2016)
Decks & Hulls
  • quadraxial fiberglass
  • balsa-core with isophthalic resin below waterline for osmosis protection
  • light, strong construction makes for a very fast boat
  • Barrier coat and antifouling (2012)
  • Four-coat ablative bottom paint (scheduled March 2017)
  • all decks and coachroof have molded anti-skid coating
  • huge, comfortable cockpit seating with backrest
  • swivel helmsman's chair, adjustable height
  • molded "sugar-scoop" reverse transoms for easy boarding from dock or water
  • telescoping swim ladder on port transom
  • grab-rails on cabin sides
  • 2 @ 1.35 x 2 meter trampolines forward with catwalk in-between (2013)
  • 2 stainless steel pulpits with bow seats (2016)
  • 2 stainless steel pushpits with stern seats and 4 fishing rod holders
  • Deck wash pump
  • Davits for dinghy with motor mount
  • Cockpit Cushions
  • 2 @ Boat hooks, mounted on side rails
  • Deck Brush with washdown connection
  • Cockpit seat with built-in Engel 12 volt freezer (can be used as fridge)
Navigation Electronics
  • All electronics interconnected via either Wi-fi, NMEA, SeaTalkng networking
  • MFD 1: 7" Raymarine ES7 Hybrid Touchscreen (2016)
  • MFD 2: 18.5" Samsung touchscreen (2016)
  • Depth Sounder: Raymarine Chirp Sonar (2016)
  • Radar: Raymarine Quantum Wireless (2016)
  • Autopilot: Raymarine Smartpilot w/ ST6002 controller
  • AIS:
    • Receiver built-in (see Primary VHF) with masthead whip antenna
    • Transceiver (can be switched off to move silently)
  • VHF:
    • Primary: Raymarine E70251 Ray70 VHF Radio with AIS Receiver, GPS and Loudhailer Output with masthead whip antenna (2016)
    • Backup: Standard Horizon Eclipse DSC+ GX1150 (s/n 1F252481)
    • Portable: 2 - Standard Horizon HX100 Floating (s/n JC5B140316) (2016)
  • SSB: Kenwood TS-50 High Frequency Single Side Band transceiver
    • AT-150 auto-tuner
    • 23' Shakespeare whip antenna
    • KISS counterpoise (2016)
  • Wind speed and angle: Northstar Explorer W310
Electrical
  • Victron Energy BMV-700 Battery Monitor System (2016)
  • Shore power:
    • Marinco 30 amp shore-power jack (2016)
    • NU-SET dogbone adapter 15 amp male to 30 amp female locking connector (2016)
    • Marinco 30 amp 50' cord (2016)
  • Batteries:
    • House: 3 @ Interstate XHD deep cycle 206 Ah (2016)
    • Starter: 2 @ group 31 multi-purpose marine battery (2016)
  • Solar Panels:
    • 1 @ Grape Solar 250 watts
    • 4 @ Grape Solar 265 watts (2016)
  • Solar Controller: Outback Power Flexmax 80 amp MPPT charger (2016)
  • Rutland 1200 Wind generator + 30 amp MPPT charger (2016)
  • 2 @ 60 amp continuous-duty alternators
  • Aims Power Inverter/Charger (2016):
    • 2000 watt pure-sine wave inverter
    • power-saver mode
    • additional remote display
    • integrated 70 amp charger
    • battery temperature sensor
  • 14 @ 120 volt duplex receptacles, all outlets GFCI protected, on Blue Sea Systems breaker panel (2016)
  • 12 volt breaker panel with volt & ammeter at Navigation station
  • Voltage meter at helm
  • 3 @ Sino Pro Multi-Function Qi Wireless Charger Wireless Bluetooth Wood Speaker, NFC, Thermometer, Alarm Clock (2016)
  • Honda eu2000i portable gas generator/inverter
  • P3 P4400 Kill-A-Watt Electricity Usage Monitor (2016)
Tankage
  • Fuel: 2 x 120 Liter stainless steel
  • Water: 250 Liter
  • Waste: 75 Liter
  • Portables:
    • 2 - 20 Liter gasoline jerry-jugs (one sprung leak and needs replacing)
    • 4 - 25 Liter diesel jerry-jugs
    • 2 - 25 Liter water jerry-jugs
    • 2 - steel 20lb LP gas
    • 1 - fiberglass 20lb LP gas
Dinghy
  • West Marine 3.1 meter Rigid Inflatable Boat (2012)
    • Innovative Lighting Bow Light (2016)
    • Innovative Lighting Stern Light (2016)
  • Mercury 9.9 Hp (2012)
  • 2 - 15 Liter quick-connect gas tanks
  • Kayak: 11' Emotion Kayaks Envy (2016)
Anchors & Ground Tackle
  • Quick Aries D model 1012, 12 volt 1000 watt electric windlass
  • 5/8" nylon bridle with 2 Forsheda 3 snubbers, 3/8" stainless steel Mantus chain hook
  • Main anchor:
    • 30kg Lewmar bruce claw
    • 200' 3/8" Galvanized High Tensile Grade 43 chain with 16200 Lb breaking load (2016)
    • 100' 5/8" nylon 3 strand
  • Secondary anchor:
    • 20kg Lewmar bruce claw
    • 100' 10mm Galvanized chain
    • 50' 1/2" nylon double braid
  • Tertiary anchor:
    • Vetus 5kg aluminum anchor
    • 100' 5/8" nylon 3 strand (2017)
Docking Equipment
5/8" Nylon 3 strand dock lines
  • 2 @ 50', royal blue, 8" braided loop on one end, with Line Master LLM2 snubber (2016)
  • 2 @ 25', royal blue, 8" braided loop on one end, with Line Master LLM2 snubber (2016)
  • 75', white
Fenders
  • 2 @ Taylor Made Big B 12" x 34" cylindrical fenders, Caribbean Yellow, with 4 oversize caribiener for quick placement (2016)
  • 3 @ Hercules 9" x 26" white & blue
  • West Marine fender, 8" x 24" white
Sails/Deck Gear
  • Standing fractional sloop rig
  • Aluminum 2-piece mast
    • 47' 10" height
    • 16' boom
  • North Sails mainsail
    • fully battened
    • 3 slab reefing
    • 304.52 sq ft
    • Luff (HT) 40'
    • Leech (HC) 42'
    • Foot (TC) 15' 3"
  • North Sails stack-pack sail bag with lazy jacks
  • North Sails genoa (on roller furling)
    • 296.48 sq ft
    • 123.08%
    • Luff (HT) 41'
    • Leech (HC) 34' 9"
    • Foot (TC) 17' 3"
  • Harken Mk III rolling furling
  • Quantum Cruising spinnaker w/ snuffer
  • North Sails storm sail
  • Winches: 2 @ Harken 2-speed 40 power ratio self-tailing winches in cockpit
  • Running rigging replaced (2012)
Safety
  • 4 watertight crash bulkheads: each bow and stern
  • encased mini-keels
  • this boat has inherent buoyancy, so it cannot sink
  • full Transport Canada and USCG safety gear
  • Spot Trace satellite tracking system tracks boat every 5 minutes (2017)
  • Global Phone Satellite phone (2017)
  • GME MT400 C/S Class 2 EPIRB
  • Liferaft: 8 person RescYou UKL8
  • 10 @ Life Jackets
  • 3 @ West Marine Offshore sail auto-inflate life jackets with safety harness (2016)
  • 3 @ ACR PLB-375 Personal Locator Beacons (2016)
  • 2 @ Nautos double tether with 3 way safety hooks (2016)
  • 2 @ CO/Smoke detectors, each engine room (2016)
  • Smoke detector in galley (2016)
  • Trident Marine LP Gas Control mounted in galley (2016)
  • Fire port, each engine room (2016)
  • 4 @ Kiddie marine dry fire extinguishers (2016)
  • 2 @ Standard Horizon HX100 handheld waterproof floating VHF (2016)
  • emergency tiller
  • 2 @ horseshoe floats with brackets
  • MOB pole
  • 2 @ throw-ropes hung on aft safety lines
  • Pentax Marine 7x50 binoculars with built-in lighted compass (2016)
  • Sgt Knots High Visibility Orange - 5/8" x 100' tether line (2016)
  • 6 @ Fusion Wave Screw gate carabiner for tether line (2016)
  • Dual Ongaro 45cm stainless steel trumpet horns (2016)
  • 2 @ bilge pumps with float switches in forward compartments
  • 2 @ Rule Mate 750 GPH bilge pumps with internal water sensors in main bilge area (2017)
Miscellaneous
  • hydraulic steering system:
    • hydraulic lines with all stainless fittings (2016)
    • 2 - Seastar 2.1 hydraulic rams (2016)
    • 45cm stainless "destroyer" type wheel
  • All salon windows rebedded (2017)
  • Textaline external window shades, white, on salon windows (2017)
  • LED lighting throughout the boat, in both white and red with wall mounted switches (2016)
  • Custom made salon table converts to king+ size bed for 2 adults or 4 kids (2016)
  • Large inventory of spare parts
  • Large swim platform w/ladder
  • Manta Marine Kettle A10-205, Gas Grill, Stainless Steel w/ royal blue Sunbrella cover (2016)
  • Breathing Mobile Clothing Washer (2016)
  • Calliger Hand Crank Clothing Wringer (2016)
  • Reliable Barracuda 200ZW Zig-Zag Sewing Machine (2016)
  • Ozark Trail Folding All-terrain dock cart (2016)
  • Top Climber Solo mast climbing system (2016)
  • Bestway CoolerZ Inflatable 7 Person Tiki Breeze Floating Island (2016)
Hardtop
  • 10 sq metre hard top with rain catchment system (2016)
  • LED lighting, in both white and red (2016)
  • Multi-coloured LED lighting around sides and back (2016)
  • 5 LED floodlights (2016)
  • 4 x motion detectors - connected to floodlights, internal alarm buzzer and external alarm siren (2016)
  • Sunbrella easy-roll side shades on port & starboard (February 2017)
  • 2 @ KwikTek T-Top PFD storage bag (2016)
Fishing (all new 2016)
  • Goture Fishing Line Winder / Reel Loader
  • Penn Slick Butt International V Standup Rod Series, 6-Feet/50-100-Pound
  • Penn Squall 50 Level Wind Trolling Reel
  • Shakespeare Alpha Bigwater 9' medium heavy action rod
  • Shakespeare Alpha A170CBO open spin reel
  • Rapala Lock-n-hold 6 rod rack (under hardtop)
  • 2 @ Black Marine RC95 Downrigger Release Clip
  • 2 @ Luhr Jensen Dipsy Diver, 8-Inch
  • 2 @ SeaSense Mooring with UV Inhibitor Snubber, Black, 24-Inch
  • Norestar 1/4" Polyester Rope with Snap Hook, 50 Feet
  • Flip Reel by Squiddies (Blue)
  • Flip Reel by Squiddies (Yellow)
  • Lazer Sharp Florida Coastal Saltwater Tackle Kit, 39 Piece
  • Ande A14-100P Premium Monofilament Line (Pink Finish, 100-Pound Test, 1/4# Spool)
  • Ande Premium Monofilament Line (Envy Green, 20 -Pounds test, 1/4# spool)
  • Meyerco WFF19 Fish Filet 2 piece knife set
  • Platinum High Performance Level 5 Protection No-cut Gloves (Large)
  • 2 @ Scotty rail-mounted locking rod holders
Tools (all new 2016)
  • Ryobi One+ System:
    • Drill
    • Screwdriver
    • Multi-Purpose tool
    • Circular saw
    • Dual-powered fan
    • Random-orbit polisher
    • Flashlight
    • Work light
    • 120 volt quick charger
    • 12 volt quick charger
    • Sander
    • Vacuum
    • Sawz-all
    • 2 @ Lithium plus battery
  • Stanley socket set
  • Stanley 97-126 11 Piece 1/2-Inch Drive Metric Deep Impact Socket Set
  • Mastercraft socket & wrench set
  • Complete set of 12/120 volt electrical tools and equipment
Charts
  • Navionics North America Marine Charts on SD/MSD (2017)
  • Navionics NAVU-3XG Caribbean and South America Marine Charts on SD/MSD (2017)
  • Explorer Charts Bahamas
    • Near Bahamas 5th Edition (2012)
    • Exumas & Ragged Islands 7th Edition (2017)
    • Far Bahamas & Turks/Caicos 6th Edition (2017)
  • Waterway Guides
    • Bahamas 2017
    • Southern 2012
  • Skipper Bob's
    • ICW Anchorages 20th Edition (2016)
    • ICW Marinas 19th Edition (2016)
    • Bahamas Bound 14th Edition (2016)
  • Atlantic Pilot Atlas 5th Edition (2016)
  • Intracostal Waterway Chartbook 5th Edition
  • Seaworthy The Exuma Guide Revised (2017)
  • Steve Dodge, Cruising Guide to Abaco 2016
  • To the Leeward Islands 2010-2011
  • To the Windward Islands 2007-2008
  • To the Windward Islands 2009-2010
  • To Trinidad and Tobago 2006
  • To the Virgin Islands 2007-2008
  • Venezuela and Bonaire 2006


Scuba(all new 2016)
  • Socal Flags Diver Flag - 3 foot by 5 foot Polyester
  • 2 @ Catalina S80 80 cubic ft aluminum tanks, blue
  • Set 1:
    • Edge dive bag
    • Scuba Pro Nighthawk BCD (integrated octo & quick release weights)
    • Scuba Pro Mk11 stage 1 regulator
    • Scuba Pro S360 stage 2 regulator
    • BRP Sea-doo 3mm 4-way-flex wetsuit
    • Scuba Pro full body rash guard
    • Akona Titanium booties
    • Mako mask
    • Andros snorkel
    • Sherwood fins
    • Scuba Pro Tec 3H dive computer
    • Scuba Choice Dive Compass with Retractor
    • Arm mounted 3 layer underwater writing slate
    • BlueFire 1200LM Cree Xml-L2 Scuba Dive Flashlight
  • Set 2:
    • Edge dive bag
    • Oceanic Probe BCD
    • Oceanic stage 1 regulator
    • Oceanic Alpha stage 2 regulator
    • Oceanic Slim Line octo
    • weight belt for soft weights
    • Oceanic analog depth/pressure/temperature guages
    • Scuba Pro Chromis dive computer
    • wetsuit
    • Neo6 booties
    • Hog mask & snorkel (red)
    • Mares Quattro Plana Avanti fins (red)
    • underwater writing slate
  • Akona weight bag
    • 6 @ Leadex Group 1 LB soft weight
    • 8 @ Leadex Group 2 LB soft weight
    • 3 @ Leadex Group 3 LB soft weight
Entertainment Electronics
  • Rockford Fosgate Punch Marine PMX-5 2.7in 50W AM/FM/WB Digital Media Receiver (2016)
  • Bitstorm Badboy Xtreme MJ long-range wi-fi booster w/ 10km range (2016)
  • Netgear WNDR3400v2 wireless router (2014)
  • Iomega 2 TB networked shared storage (2014)
  • Silverstone media system w/ 6 TB storage & 9000+ movies (2014)
  • Sanyo 24" LED flat screen (2016)
  • RCA Digital TV antenna (2016)
  • Canon PIXMA MG2920 Wireless Inkjet All-in-One Printer/Copier/Scanner (2016)
  • Night Owl 24 hour/day High Definition 1080p colour digital video recording system w/ 1 TB storage (2016)
  • 4 @ Night Owl HD colour video cameras with night vision - expandable to 8 cameras (2016)
  • Ion Air Pro underwater HD action video camera (2016)


-------------------- FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS --------------------


LOCATION
It's current location is Grand Bahama Yacht Club, Freeport, Grand Bahama Island. We should be here until May 22. After that, time and tide will tell.

The current location makes it really easy to get to.
    • From Fort Lauderdale Florida take the ferry to Freeport. I think it's $80 each way.
    • From Toronto, Sunwing flies direct to Freeport. Stay at the Pelican Bay Resort and you have a 4 minute ferry ride to the yacht club. On March 25th those flights (all taxes and fees in) was $1075 per person for the week.

WHY ARE WE SELLING
While we love traveling and sailing, my wife's health requires us to have a single doctor that can follow her condition. There are plenty of available doctors out here, but she needs continuing care that a new doctor each week just can't provide.

So we will be moving back to shore. No, probably not back to Canada. While our kids are there, I'm done with the winters. We will pick a spot in the Caribbean or Central America and buy a house (yuck).

REGISTRATION & TAXES
Sail Quest is Canadian federally registered.

YOU ARE CANADIAN: If you keep it out of Canada there are no taxes on the sale. This is perfectly legal. (there's a $250 registration transfer fee)

YOU ARE AMERICAN: If you keep the it out of US there should not be any taxes, just your Coast Guard registration. But you have to verify this with your local state/federal agencies.
You can also register this boat in any other country which will reduce or eliminate any taxes.
I HAVE KIDS
Good!

This was my dream for a long time, but I waited until my kids were older and left home. That was a mistake. I think my kids missed out on an amazing adventure. They would have had such an experience if they had traveled around seeing the world. And home-schooling kids is a lot easier than most people think.

I never though about home-schooling until we moved out of Toronto. We moved to a small rural area where the local school had promised full care for my 4 kids, but then couldn't deliver. After fighting with them for 2 months we decided to invest our energies into our kids instead of fighting the school. We pulled them and home schooled. They were in grades 8, 6, 5, and 2. School work took only an hour or two each day, and at the age of 16 they had finished their high school (with over 80% in EVERY class), and all enrolled at University. To be precise, Becky, our youngest, finished her high school at the age of 14, when her peers would be STARTING high school. They were, in fact, the youngest students to ever enroll at Laurentian University (Sudbury, Ontario). And they all did great, better than those who had gone through the public schools.

You will find many other families with kids aboard. Smart, well-behaved kids. Kids who have seen real poverty on some islands. Kids who are grateful for what they have, and know they need to EARN a living, not have it spoon-fed to them. Kids who are active, outgoing, and fit. Kids who would rather go swimming than play a video game about swimming.

EXPERIENCE
We've had power boats (14' to 24') for years but never sail boats. In fact when I bought this boat my TOTAL sailing experience was a few hours in a 10' skiff one afternoon at Scout Camp with my kids 15 years earlier.

I did a lot of reading (Sailing for Dummies, etc.), and when we bought this we started by motoring. Then we put out the Genoa (the sail on the front) because it's an easy sail to put in and out and an easy one to learn. Then we started using the main as well. Finally after we got to the Bahamas we started using the spinnaker (the big colourful light wind sail).

The boat is easy to learn on and very forgiving.
TRAINING
We could give you a week of training for no cost (no guarantee how often we will get out, that is weather dependent, but we will get out a few times).

My 24 year old son, is available for more after that.
WHAT SKILLS ARE NEEDED
Jack of all trades is perfect.

Basic mechanical skills, plumbing, wiring and electrical knowledge, these things will take you anywhere. If you are good with your hands it will help a lot. And even if you don't know it now, you soon will.

The more you can do on your own, the better you will be.

What if you are all thumbs? Then when things go wrong, you will have to hire someone to fix it. Things will go wrong. You have a very complicated piece of machinery, made as light as possible. But proper maintenance and replacing worn parts before they break will make things easy (and a lot cheaper).
CAN IT BE SAILED SINGLE-HANDED
It can be easily sailed single-handed. All lines are led to the (sheltered) cockpit, where there are two large winches. You should not have to go out on deck to do pretty much anything except drop the anchor (and you can upgrade by putting an anchor control in the cockpit if you wanted too).
IS IT GOOD FOR ISLAND HOPPING?
It's a perfect boat for Caribbean island hoping. And if you ever decide to venture further, the Wildcat is a real offshore boat. We have her fully set up for live-aboard cruising. While most "cruise ready" boats are good for a few days or a week out, this boat can sustain herself endlessly (well, you will need food and fuel).
WHY A CATAMARAN
Comfort, safety, convenience, comfort, oh and safety.

If you haven't yet decide on getting a monohull or a cat, read this: Why a Catamaran?
CAN YOU BEACH THIS BOAT?
Click this link to view on Google Maps.
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/114278431068795966256/photos/@29.8840623,-81.2793924,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1s-cmgtvEnDfu8%2FWC4HZIIs0gI%2FAAAAAAAADNU%2FiIS18Uhz ArA7C4UdvUE_I1edAfMD-EF4ACLIB!2e4!6s%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2F-cmgtvEnDfu8%2FWC4HZIIs0gI%2FAAAAAAAADNU%2FiIS18Uhz ArA7C4UdvUE_I1edAfMD-EF4ACLIB%2Fw203-h100-p-k-no%2F!7i3264!8i1840!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1!6m1!1e1
DOES IT HAVE AC
No, don't need it.

We spent a summer in north Florida on the boat, and we needed AC there. We used a portable window unit. We gave it away once we arrived in the Bahamas.

Here (and through the rest of the Caribbean), there is always a cool breeze. You just don't need AC.
WHAT IS/ISN'T INCLUDED
Everything listed on the "details" page (below) is included, with the exception of Scuba Set 1 and the dive computer from set 2, and the Dungeons & Dragons game.

It comes with all galley gear (pots/pans, dishes, cutlery, cookware), towels, bedding. Just bring your clothes.

Here is a list of all the books on board that stay with the boat. Most are brand new, or nearly new. All are in great condition.
Books

Here is a much longer list of eBooks that are also on board.
eBooks
MORE INFORMATION
There is considerable info if you follow these links.
Details: Sail Quest Details
Interior Photos: New Photos (interior)
Exterior Photos: New Photos (exterior)

Feel free to look around or website while you are there.

For another neat look at Sail Quest, in Google Earth, go to 26°30'30.05"N, 78°37'46.59"W and zoom in to an altitude of 10 metres. That's us enjoying the afternoon anchored out with our tiki-raft deployed.
It doesn't say what color the curtains are. How can I possibly decide whether to buy or not, when the description doesn't even mention what color the curtains are? Really!
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Seriously, how long does it take to clean up a boat and photo it... an hour, maybe 2...
Isn't that worth a day's work?..
You could always just move all the clutter to one end, then take photos in the other end, and vice versa ... :-)
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Most brokers are in it for the money not to help you. Most just talk up a boat so you fly in to see it and just buy it anyway even though it is a total POS because you already invested the money to get there. I have been all over the country from Miami to NYC to San Francisco to San Diego to La Paz and found this to be 100% true everywhere.
Brokers are the seller's agent, not the buyer's - if you don't like that, buy elsewhere.
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The concept of 'wasting time' is a funny one.

I'm not sure of the OP's age, however I was an adult in a time BEFORE the internet. If one thinks that it's an inconvenience to drive around and look at boats after you've narrowed down the field, imagine what we did in the 70's, 80's and early 90's.

Yep, we made phone calls and appointments and drove around and looked at a lot of crap.

Incidentally, the idea of "I'm paying cash", is also a funny sentiment. Cash vs Credit really only matters to the BUYER. The Seller gets CASH regardless of how you pay for it or whether you finance the boat. As the seller I don't care where your cash comes from, or whether you signed a note or made a withdrawal. It's the same to me as a seller.
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Brokers are the seller's agent, not the buyer's - if you don't like that, buy elsewhere.
Broker suppose to attract buyers, but not by means of lying and cheating. Otherwise they are not brokers but a**holes. And buyer will blame both - broker and seller at the end.

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The concept of 'wasting time' is a funny one.
I'm not sure of the OP's age, however I was an adult in a time BEFORE the internet. If one thinks that it's an inconvenience to drive around and look at boats after you've narrowed down the field, imagine what we did in the 70's, 80's and early 90's.
70's, 80's, 90's and even 00's are gone forever. Regardless of your willingness to realize that. Things are very different now. It's not uncommon to buy boat in another country, on another continent, many thousands miles away. Things are done differently today. And these sellers who quicker will realize these changes and will adapt to them, will have much better results at the end.
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You forgot to mention: Clean the boat. I have looked at several boats with oil floating in the bilge or reek of diesel when you open the hatch. And I have wasted my time too driving a hour and half to look at a floating trash can.
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Some interesting replies to say the least. To the haters who say the ad doesn't matter and you should be doing your research or way back in the day we used to walk through 3' of snow to look at crappy boats ok then.

Unfortunately we are in the modern day age. Where 90% of the country has access to a +10megapixel camera on there phone which takes pretty decent pics and if you can't even post the basics of what your boat has ( Im not even talking about accessories) gees I sold my boat in Hawaii 3 years ago. It took me all of 15 minutes to list the basics and at least give the pertinent info and do you know why I did this? I wanted to sell my boat ASAP. Just what I want is to get 10 phone calls that ask the same question ( what kind of motor do you have?)

It's a buyers market I'm just saying a lot of sellers are missing the point. it's a buyers market. At least spend the 30 minutes on your freaken boat add.

Oh and these dudes who are piggy backing onto this posting trying to sell their boat, really? I think you even miss the point even more. Put your ad in the classifieds section lol
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It's a buyers market I'm just saying a lot of sellers are missing the point. it's a buyers market. At least spend the 30 minutes on your freaken boat add.
We all have a camera on our phones we carry everywhere. No excuse to not have recent pictures...unless you have something to hide!

If a seller won't spend a few minutes to list the equipment and post a few pictures, then I figure he also has no time to change the oil, clean the boat, or do regular essential maintenance. And who would want a boat like that? No one!
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There is one situation where a "no info" ad is forgivable. Its still a terrible ad, but understandable. Thats when the owner has died and the descendants (who know nothing about the boat) need to sell the boat.

However, too often the one thing the descendants know about the boat is the price it cost when new. So the asking price is totally insane. Unfortunately, those boats need to sit for a couple years before the storage fees knock some sense into the reluctant new owners. And by then the fuel has spoiled, freezing damage has cracked the engine block, and the cushions are moldy.
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The concept of 'wasting time' is a funny one.

I'm not sure of the OP's age, however I was an adult in a time BEFORE the internet. If one thinks that it's an inconvenience to drive around and look at boats after you've narrowed down the field, imagine what we did in the 70's, 80's and early 90's.

Yep, we made phone calls and appointments and drove around and looked at a lot of crap.

Incidentally, the idea of "I'm paying cash", is also a funny sentiment. Cash vs Credit really only matters to the BUYER. The Seller gets CASH regardless of how you pay for it or whether you finance the boat. As the seller I don't care where your cash comes from, or whether you signed a note or made a withdrawal. It's the same to me as a seller.
Ah, but financed deals generally require more time and are more likely to fall thru.

Cash is King...but get a "Proof of Funds" letter before accepting the offer, just to make sure.
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