Part 2 - Columbia 29 refit, in the Rocky Mountains

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Well? Don't keep us in suspense, where did you go? The South Pacific is a pretty big place...

The Cook Islands. I need to make sure Dan out here in MT sees these and shows his wife. We want to get them to go sailing with us as soon as his boat is done too lol.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

The Cook Islands. I need to make sure Dan out here in MT sees these and shows his wife. We want to get them to go sailing with us as soon as his boat is done too lol.

hey I was close lol
Gotta sail thru the marquesas to get to the cooks from the CONUS

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

hey I was close lol
Gotta sail thru the marquesas to get to the cooks from the CONUS

To be honest I wouldn't be upset to sail with the wife down there and island hop for awhile. Then fly the in-laws down with the kids, put them up in a villa for a couple weeks. Anyway big plans!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

To be honest I wouldn't be upset to sail with the wife down there and island hop for awhile. Then fly the in-laws down with the kids, put them up in a villa for a couple weeks. Anyway big plans!

the cooks are not a fast short sail. In our boats its about 6 weeks from jump off

[406Columbia]

well the wife said she wants a stove and oven. So we looked at the ENO and the force 10 as well as several others. As you all know the Columbia 29 is small, so after looking at dimensions the best I could find were these two.

Force 10, Euro Sub-Compact

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/forc...range-gimbaled

ENO 2 Burner Open Sea
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp...208&id=1125588

Anyone have experience with either? Figure it would be best to have the stove on hand for when the carpenter gets here to make space for the stove/oven. Also we are absolutely going to put in a fridge/freezer. Still shopping, thinking dometic or arb.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

the cooks are not a fast short sail. In our boats its about 6 weeks from jump off

I don't doubt it, but a dream and goal I suppose. We will obviously start around the west coast learning more or perhaps the Caribbean. Who knows, long way to go.

[roverhi]

Doubt that you will need a three burner stove. My wife put together fantastic meals on a two burner stove with oven. Did not hear her ever wish for more burners. To me, three burner stoves are a non starter on a sail boat. whichever burner you use it will not balance because the weight of the potwill not be in line with the the gimbal axle. Will work in harbor with the stove locked in position but could be so bad as to be unusable at sea.

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

well the wife said she wants a stove and oven. So we looked at the ENO and the force 10 as well as several others. As you all know the Columbia 29 is small, so after looking at dimensions the best I could find were these two.

Force 10, Euro Sub-Compact

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/forc...range-gimbaled

ENO 2 Burner Open Sea
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp...208&id=1125588

Anyone have experience with either? Figure it would be best to have the stove on hand for when the carpenter gets here to make space for the stove/oven. Also we are absolutely going to put in a fridge/freezer. Still shopping, thinking dometic or arb.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

well the wife said she wants a stove and oven. So we looked at the ENO and the force 10 as well as several others. As you all know the Columbia 29 is small, so after looking at dimensions the best I could find were these two.

Force 10, Euro Sub-Compact

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/forc...range-gimbaled

ENO 2 Burner Open Sea
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp...208&id=1125588

Anyone have experience with either? Figure it would be best to have the stove on hand for when the carpenter gets here to make space for the stove/oven. Also we are absolutely going to put in a fridge/freezer. Still shopping, thinking dometic or arb.

for our boats if you have to have an oven then this is my recommendation .
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/gn-e...as-stove-g1004
All of the rest are to big to comfortably fit and have adequate room for gimbal swing when on a starboard tack.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by roverhi

Doubt that you will need a three burner stove. My wife put together fantastic meals on a two burner stove with oven. Did not hear her ever wish for more burners. To me, three burner stoves are a non starter on a sail boat. whichever burner you use it will not balance because the weight of the potwill not be in line with the the gimbal axle. Will work in harbor with the stove locked in position but could be so bad as to be unusable at sea.

funny enough that three burner is smaller than some of the two burners. which is why we put it on our short list. Otherwise we are of the same mind as you, two burners seems to be more than enough.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

for our boats if you have to have an oven then this is my recommendation .
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/gn-e...as-stove-g1004
All of the rest are to big to comfortably fit and have adequate room for gimbal swing when on a starboard tack.

Yikes! I was thinking at $1600 I was going big for our little stove and galley. I guess I was wrong.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

Yikes! I was thinking at $1600 I was going big for our little stove and galley. I guess I was wrong.

what do you have now?

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

what do you have now?

Its got nothing now, when we got her she had a little single burner camping cartridge deal. I think it was butane or something. I donated it to Goodwill or it will be going in the next box. It did have a cut out and stainless insert for what appears to be a two burner cooktop that was gimballed at some point.

A gimballed cooktop isn't a bad idea especially with a magma grill or something similar. Since the wife has asked for a stove I will try to do that first and if we cannot make it fit that's an option. However the two I posted previously seem to fit the space.


I like the smaller one you posted but not for an additional 2k and only an inch or so smaller. Nice looking stove though for sure.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

Its got nothing now, when we got her she had a little single burner camping cartridge deal. I think it was butane or something. I donated it to Goodwill or it will be going in the next box. It did have a cut out and stainless insert for what appears to be a two burner cooktop that was gimballed at some point.

A gimballed cooktop isn't a bad idea especially with a magma grill or something similar. Since the wife has asked for a stove I will try to do that first and if we cannot make it fit that's an option. However the two I posted previously seem to fit the space.


I like the smaller one you posted but not for an additional 2k and only an inch or so smaller. Nice looking stove though for sure.

just do the propane cooktop like I have . As to an oven I have one of those Coleman camp stove folding ovens . Don't do much baking anyway.
As to bread the required pressure cooker works great.

Eventually I might gimbal the stove but I doubt it.

[Don C L]

So you may have seen this slide show already, but you might try to get a hold of John Dilworth before you start cutting and gluing.
I went through it looking for a shot of the stove/oven and right at 2:44 you'll see they had a gimbaled kerosene stove with no oven. The one that Rob showed is a good choice I agree but that price is a new engine for me! Do people really bake that much to justify it? I know this MAY not be your cup of tea, but you might try one of these at home first. I use it with my alcohol stove and it works well! You may have seen it, the Omnia oven. And BTW, I like propane, but I happen to prefer my alcohol stove now for our size boat too. It's a little slower and a little more expensive, but for a small boat with space at a premium, it's nice. No hoses, tank, solenoid etc to fuss with.
Sorry if this is all old news, but the slide show is a nice C29 vacation to see anyway! Oh and BTW, I contacted John some time back, VERY nice guy, I bet he'd be glad to chat about C29 issues. I think you can message him through vimeo.

[malbert73]

Consider origo non pressurized alcohol stove/oven- save room on propane and hoses