Part 2 - Columbia 29 refit, in the Rocky Mountains

[Greatest Lakes]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Just build one yourself based on a Coleman single burner backpacking stove .

That's what I'm planning on doing. The other question is whether or not to remove my old galley maid stove/oven. It appears to be lightly used, but I have never been a fan of alcohol stoves. I wish a force 10 install wasn't so costly. Not sure where I'd put a propane locker either.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Greatest Lakes

That's what I'm planning on doing. The other question is whether or not to remove my old galley maid stove/oven. It appears to be lightly used, but I have never been a fan of alcohol stoves. I wish a force 10 install wasn't so costly. Not sure where I'd put a propane locker either.

On what vessel ?
The propane locker that is .

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Greatest Lakes

That's what I'm planning on doing. The other question is whether or not to remove my old galley maid stove/oven. It appears to be lightly used, but I have never been a fan of alcohol stoves. I wish a force 10 install wasn't so costly. Not sure where I'd put a propane locker either.

Question. On your columbia is it the westerbeke ten-2 engine?
Is it adequate for the boat? I am placing that engine in my defender.
Any insights would be great . Like fuel consumption, speeds and overall performance.

[Greatest Lakes]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Question. On your columbia is it the westerbeke ten-2 engine?
Is it adequate for the boat? I am placing that engine in my defender.
Any insights would be great . Like fuel consumption, speeds and overall performance.

I have the Columbia 9.6. I have 2 large lazarettes, but they are already fairly full and I don't want to lose accessibility to the steering gear and other stuff already installed in them. There is a very small hatch all the way at the stern, but the space is not large enough for a large propane tank. I think my best bet would be several small cans.

My original engine was replaced with a Yanmar 2gm20f. 18hp. Wide open with the old prop fixed blade prop I'd get 4.5 knots or so. I never ran it wide open more than a minute or so trying to get through a bridge when the current was an issue. At half throttle 3-3.4 knots.. When the wind quit, last year I had to go the 60 something miles back across the lake from Wisconsin under power. I fueled up before I left and used only about 2-3 gallons. It took around 15 hours. Over the past 5 years with the boat I figure I may have burned 15 gallons.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Greatest Lakes

I have the Columbia 9.6. I have 2 large lazarettes, but they are already fairly full and I don't want to lose accessibility to the steering gear and other stuff already installed in them. There is a very small hatch all the way at the stern, but the space is not large enough for a large propane tank. I think my best bet would be several small cans.

My original engine was replaced with a Yanmar 2gm20f. 18hp. Wide open with the old prop fixed blade prop I'd get 4.5 knots or so. I never ran it wide open more than a minute or so trying to get through a bridge when the current was an issue. At half throttle 3-3.4 knots.. When the wind quit, last year I had to go the 60 something miles back across the lake from Wisconsin under power. I fueled up before I left and used only about 2-3 gallons. It took around 15 hours. Over the past 5 years with the boat I figure I may have burned 15 gallons.

Well how big of a tank do you need?
My setup holds a 2.5 gallon short tank with enough room for a spare 1 gallon tank. Set in my lazarette
They usually last me about a year of daily cooking . For one .

That info tells me that this little mitsubishi k2b will be a good fit for me then .

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Greatest Lakes

Just wanted to add my latest bolt on upgrade. Currently I'm looking for one of those single burner gimbaled storm stoves with no success. Thinking I may make my own. As far as the prop is concerned, I have record of my speeds at various points of sail, so I should be able to get a good estimate of any speed gains. Anything over half a knot and I'll be ecstatic.

looks great, I think if I had an inboard I would go the same route, very nice. The gimbal stove is a great idea, Don has one looks great. I see them from time to time at second hand stores and ebay. I think they call it a Sea Swing. making one shouldn't be too hard, but as mentioned a Jet Boil is a solid choice and works very quickly.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Just build one yourself based on a Coleman single burner backpacking stove .

Excellent idea, those are very handy.

[Don C L]

Now, where to put it, where it can swing feely in all directions and not be in the way, is kinda the trick. As you recall I have a spot in mine that comes from the companionway closure addition in mine. Most boats won't have that space. I thought about putting it elsewhere but nothing seemed to work, for me anyway. Sure is nice to have!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Now, where to put it, where it can swing feely in all directions and not be in the way, is kinda the trick. As you recall I have a spot in mine that comes from the companionway closure addition in mine. Most boats won't have that space. I thought about putting it elsewhere but nothing seemed to work, for me anyway. Sure is nice to have!

Is Pythagoras all origional in the cabin Layout wise?

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Is Pythagoras all origional in the cabin Layout wise?

Yes, except that the PO added boards to shrink the size of the companion way to lessen the chance of flooding the cabin (and I have yet to get a wave, or even much spray, in the cockpit, but if I ever do...) that extra enclosure provides more space on the interior for the sea-swing to be mounted at the companionway. It is a bit in the way, but really handy for making coffee while I am sailing. I think I have a photo somewhere....
Ok here's one of the companionway; the kettle on the sea-swing, bottom right is visible.

[406Columbia]

Dug out a few more pieces of teak, have decided to make the anchor platform out of that instead of starboard. I will just give it a more classic and beautiful look. Once I cut the wood to the correct size and route it, I plan to soak it in teak oil. Done welding, now on to polishing.

Only thing I'm stuck on is how to lay out the teak boards for the deck. Either line them all up side by side and cut out the shape, or two pieces out in an inverted V shape and a little wedge in the center. What do you guys think?

Still haven't made any little hand rails/life line rails for the platform. May wait to install it and paint the hull before I do, if I do. I have been conscious of weight (don't want to hobby horse) on this and a few times have switched out materials for lighter weight stuff where is was obviously overkill.

Don't think i mentioned this before but this was pretty much complete a few weeks ago. Until I realized on test fit I had put the anchor on the wrong side for my manual windless (sigh). Always an adventure when you don't have all the pieces in place yet.

[Don C L]

If it is any help, if it were me I'd keep it that way because I am right handed and I lift the anchor and chain by hand. It's fine. It's doable with our boats.

BTW our design doesn't hobby horse as much as the others with more rocker. Still, yes, it is good to keep the weight as centralized as possible.

[Don C L]

Let's go sailing some more and you can experiment more on my boat!

Oh, and I'd say lay the teak lengthwise; your first option.

[406Columbia]

Ended up making the anchor platform decking template a big longer. Hoping to cut the teak planks out this weekend and test fit everything. Weld on a few more supports and then polish it up.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Let's go sailing some more and you can experiment more on my boat!

Oh, and I'd say lay the teak lengthwise; your first option.

I laid it out, looks better I think lengthwise rather than angled. We would love to come up and see you sometime and go sailing, just say when.