Part 2 - Columbia 29 refit, in the Rocky Mountains

[406Columbia]

Thanks guys, lots of great suggestions. The Stove and the cooktops are all great food for thought. Will do some more measuring, calling tech support and seeing how to cram more into our little boat.

The alcohol stoves really are smaller and that's nice. One of those Origio 2 burner units would fit wonderfully. I might not even need to do any cutting to make it fit, will have to confirm. That and a grill might work fine, but the wife is a wizard in the kitchen with baking so who knows.


Anyway, thanks for the input guys. I will do some more searching here how folks have mounted the cooktops and see if I can find something nice.

[Don C L]

I was a bit doubtful of the Origo but I found a good deal on one so I tried it, and now I see, for me, the pros outweigh the cons. I stash alcohol anywhere I want without concern. It's so easy and safe, the kids can use it and I am not concerned. It is not like the old pressurized alcohol stoves, thank God. Those things were dangerous. I don't have mine gimbaled yet (at $120 for the gimbals kind of expensive on my shoestring budget believe it or not!) but it is on the list. Since I don't need to cook till I am anchored where I am, it has not been a requirement yet. It is a little slower, but I have found I am usually doing so many other little things anyway, a few more minutes of cook time go unnoticed. I do not boil water for stuff like cooking spaghetti.. I consider that a huge waste of energy and water, so my meals don't demand a lot of energy and water. That Omnia stove is worth a look for any boat regardless of whether it has a conventional oven or not. It is very economical in terms of space and fuel needed for baking, and it works well, especially with the silicone insert!
Origo does make a stove/oven combo that might be worth a look too:
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/marin...tove--13781513

[newhaul]

I'm likely to get flamed for this but here is the stove and oven I'm seriously thinking of installing .
( just have to make my own gimbal for the unit)
https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Cam...72876734&psc=1
Full Dimensions- 12.5 L x 21 W x 18 H inches. Internal Oven Dimensions- 11 L x 16 W x 9 H inches. Oven fits 9 x 13 inches pan inside. weight: 35 pounds
Can be adapted to use full sized tanks.
And yes I spoke to the manufacturer all that's needed is a mounting system for permanent install

[Don C L]

Besides being careful about leaks of course, I think those stoves may be more prone to rusting issues.
It's just me but IMO all the fuss one must go through to put a propane oven on a small boat seems to have more cons than pros....
flame off now

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Besides being careful about leaks of course, I think those stoves may be more prone to rusting issues.
It's just me but IMO all the fuss one must go through to put a propane oven on a small boat seems to have more cons than pros....
flame off now

it is all stainless except the brass burners .so should last a good while,
And even if it were to only last 5 to 7 years it is still cheap at twice the cost .aside from the fact it can be removed and used on shore as well .

I already have the propane system installed so its just a matter of changing stoves.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Besides being careful about leaks of course, I think those stoves may be more prone to rusting issues.
It's just me but IMO all the fuss one must go through to put a propane oven on a small boat seems to have more cons than pros....
flame off now

don my expectation of being flamed is due to the unit not being an actual marine unit so you actually need to watch what you are cooking just like you should all the time.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I'm likely to get flamed for this but here is the stove and oven I'm seriously thinking of installing .
( just have to make my own gimbal for the unit)
https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Cam...72876734&psc=1
Full Dimensions- 12.5 L x 21 W x 18 H inches. Internal Oven Dimensions- 11 L x 16 W x 9 H inches. Oven fits 9 x 13 inches pan inside. weight: 35 pounds
Can be adapted to use full sized tanks.
And yes I spoke to the manufacturer all that's needed is a mounting system for permanent install

I have that exact model in my camping trailer, great stove. During big parties we often pull it out and bake the appetizers in it. I have baked croissants, cookies, brownies, etc. Great little stove oven combo

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

I was a bit doubtful of the Origo but I found a good deal on one so I tried it, and now I see, for me, the pros outweigh the cons. I stash alcohol anywhere I want without concern. It's so easy and safe, the kids can use it and I am not concerned. It is not like the old pressurized alcohol stoves, thank God. Those things were dangerous. I don't have mine gimbaled yet (at $120 for the gimbals kind of expensive on my shoestring budget believe it or not!) but it is on the list. Since I don't need to cook till I am anchored where I am, it has not been a requirement yet. It is a little slower, but I have found I am usually doing so many other little things anyway, a few more minutes of cook time go unnoticed. I do not boil water for stuff like cooking spaghetti.. I consider that a huge waste of energy and water, so my meals don't demand a lot of energy and water. That Omnia stove is worth a look for any boat regardless of whether it has a conventional oven or not. It is very economical in terms of space and fuel needed for baking, and it works well, especially with the silicone insert!
Origo does make a stove/oven combo that might be worth a look too:
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/marin...tove--13781513

That looks great, if we don't do the sub compact euro force 10 I think we will do that two burner alcohol stove. Cant beat the price

[Don C L]

Like I say, I really like mine, but to be sure it pleases your wife too, you might want to get one to try out for a while... The hazards of propane, while easy to avoid, are not to be trifled with too. Now if you are sure you are headed for distant lands right away, I do not know how available or how expensive alcohol is in points south of here.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Like I say, I really like mine, but to be sure it pleases your wife too, you might want to get one to try out for a while... The hazards of propane, while easy to avoid, are not to be trifled with too. Now if you are sure you are headed for distant lands right away, I do not know how available or how expensive alcohol is in points south of here.

it has a marginal availability the further south you go from the southern border and near impossible the further west you go . When you do find it its expensive . Propane is available worldwide.

[Don C L]

Out of curiosity I went looking and found these:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ico-54058.html
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/91633/
Propane and Butane are a lot more readily available around the globe as you probably know already.

[406Columbia]

All good information. I would have thought propane was more difficult to locate globally than alcohol. Guess I would be wrong, never really shopped for it.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

All good information. I would have thought propane was more difficult to locate globally than alcohol. Guess I would be wrong, never really shopped for it.

most of the planet actually cooks with it

[john61ct]

just need a good collection of adapter fittings

[Renegde_Sailor]

Cool build, I like where you are going for it.

I am a fellow Montana boy myself, born and raised in Livingston.