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17-09-2009, 04:58
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
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Number of Heads
In my ever present boat lust I have been looking on-line for my next boat (might be years from now).
So what's the thing with designers/builders thinking that 42' boats need 2 heads? Instead of these 2 small poorly heads heads I would much prefer 1 good head and the extra space for something useful. Hell there are pently of 2-3 bedroom houses/condos/apartments with only 1 bathroom; why would you need 2 on a 42' boat? Do they think that people on the boat need to all be up using the head, taking a shower, all at the same time? I'm sure that if you have 2 heads you will use both, but if you only have 1 is it that big a hassle to evryone?
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17-09-2009, 04:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Almería, ES
Boat: Chiquita 46 - Libertalia
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I think its inherited from Angloamerican architecture in houses, the number of bathrooms seems just as important as the number of bedrooms. Mildly silly IMHO.
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17-09-2009, 05:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sweden westcoast
Boat: Allegro 33
Posts: 100
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Don Lucas, well said, soon they will try to fit 2 dressingrooms too./ harry
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17-09-2009, 05:43
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sweden westcoast
Boat: Allegro 33
Posts: 100
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Don Lucas its getting to be a little Hollywood./ Harry
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17-09-2009, 06:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Punta Gorda, Fl
Boat: Endeavourcat Sailcat 44
Posts: 3,241
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If one has followed this forum for a while one might suspect that with the dependability of marine heads that builders put in two heads so there is a small chance one will work.
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17-09-2009, 06:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Boat: Boatless
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Fifteen years ago we crossed the Gulf Stream in 10 ft seas; one head, four guys and a large lady. Halfway over due to excessive vertical pressure and horizontal shear we became four guys, a bucket, a large lady and at last two guys providing support . Since then I have always bought or chartered boats with two heads.
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"Remember, experience only means that you screw-up less often."
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17-09-2009, 06:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
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For the simple reason houses have two (or more) bathrooms, air conditioning, a freezer, ice maker, etc. - convenience. Boats are made to attract buyers and buyers want more than one head. Boating doesn't have to be camping.
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17-09-2009, 07:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
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Don't knock it until you've tried it. I thought it was a bit of overkill but I assure you the second one came in handy when we buggered up the main head twice in the five years we've had the boat. Did this once when cruising on a single head boat and can assure you that using a bucket gets old very quickly, especially in any seaway.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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17-09-2009, 07:41
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
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Some people just don't like sharing their toilet with others if they don't have to.
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Life begins where land ends.
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17-09-2009, 07:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sweden westcoast
Boat: Allegro 33
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Theres a Swedish sailor in a sisterboat to mine, that made of stainless, a toiletring thats fastened to the rear pulpit. So theres a visual for you./ harry
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17-09-2009, 07:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sweden westcoast
Boat: Allegro 33
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Theres a pic of it on Monitors website, The boattype is Allegro 33./ Harry
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17-09-2009, 07:57
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
I'm sure that if you have 2 heads you will use both, but if you only have 1 is it that big a hassle to evryone?
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We have had one head out of action for the last month.
I just fixed it yesterday.
The blockage was in the sea cock that is stuck half open and we were 1,000 miles from a place to haulk out in an emergency so it had to stay unfixed.
Don, if you are married, have a chic, or are in the hunt for a chic or marriage or even a meaningless fling, may I sugest to you that you will get more loving with 2 heads. A week with no head just won't be appreciated.
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17-09-2009, 08:03
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
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I couldn't agree more!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
So what's the thing with designers/builders thinking that 42' boats need 2 heads?
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Our last boat was a 41 footer, and the forward head was much more useful as a sail locker than anything else. I would have much preferred a workbench with a vice than a second toilet on that boat.
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17-09-2009, 08:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 3,630
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This is one of those - if you never had it, you can't miss it - concepts
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17-09-2009, 08:12
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
I would have much preferred a workbench with a vice than a second toilet on that boat.
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Why didnt you just put a workbench in there?
Then you could still have had it as a spare outhouse and had all your boy toys too.
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