New sailor, trying to narrow down what to get for my next boat.

[VinnyVincent]

Bummer the boat is super nice but kind of sketchy. Sellers name is not on the title. Says they were living abord with the guy who owns the boat and bought it from him when he moved. Guys name is still on the dock slip. Office was closed, but she said the harbormaster wasn't even aware that she purchased the boat yet.

Guy is apparently in the virgin islands and she may or may not be able to get him on the phone.

I might go get the real story from the harbormaster tomorrow. Maybe they can get hold of the guy.



Not looking too promising at this point, boat was perfect too. Had an extra set of brand new sails and it looked really well maintained. The interior was pretty nice. It also had marine air.

[Cheechako]

Yeah... be very careful you don't buy a boat from someone that doesn't own it! Alot of that type of thing going on now days. A bunch of people have been burned renting houses, paid first and last only to find out the guy they rented from doesn't own the house!

[VinnyVincent]

Well I checked everything out and it seemed good, so I pulled the trigger! Got it for 2500. Looks like it needs some small things plus the engine and I should out on the water!

[GrowleyMonster]

Originally Posted by VinnyVincent

Well I checked everything out and it seemed good, so I pulled the trigger! Got it for 2500. Looks like it needs some small things plus the engine and I should out on the water!

Sweet! Congratulations on becoming an owner! So which one did you buy? Got clear title etc? Motor is not a big issue at that price. $1400 will get you a brand new Nissan 6hp on sale at Cabelas, and a couple hundred more gets you a very nice mount. If you put a proper engine in, fix the old one, or go electric, it will still be a great backup or can be sold to recoup some of the purchase price.

Now time to roll up your sleeves and get to work. What you saved in dollars, you will now spend in sweat and blood lol! My suggestion actually is to just push off with a pole and go for a sail first thing, even without a motor. Nothing like that first time out to make you bond with your new to you boat. It makes all the work and expense seem worthwhile. I now raise my glass to you, and wish you the best, Captain Vinny.

[VinnyVincent]

Got the newport 28.
Been shopping on craigslist for an outboard but most seem like ripoffs.
Im thinking about buying a smaller new outboard vs a more powerful used one.
Saw some new 3.5hps forr el cheapo, but I'm thinking I need at least 5

[jkindredpdx]

I had 5hp Honda on my Catalina 22. It was reliable. IMO, we focus so much on sailing, but most of the close calls come during docking under power. Reliable power (ie. New quality engine) is good insurance.

JimK

[Mark1977]

Originally Posted by VinnyVincent

Well I checked everything out and it seemed good, so I pulled the trigger! Got it for 2500. Looks like it needs some small things plus the engine and I should out on the water!

Congrats.... now post some pics...

[FamilyVan]

Totally agree. You are better off with a new outboard. It won't even be much more money. I would think 5 would be a little small, but really, it depends what you want to use it for.

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[VinnyVincent]

Decided to go with a new engine. The 6hp is tempting due to lightwieght/cheap, but Id hate to buy it and it not be powerful enough.

The 9.9 is 600 dollars more and wieghs 90lbs. I have to motor out a few miles and under a bridge to get out in the bay,so Im thinking I may need the 9.9. Perhaps I should suck it up and spend the extra cash seeing how I practically stole the boat.

[FamilyVan]

I think 9.9 would be the way to go. My Grampian 30 was similar to your Newport (1600 lbs more) and had an onboard atomic 4 with a fixed two bladed prop. It was by no means over powered. Atomics are around 30 hp.
I can recall at least once where I had to turn around and go home because my atomic just wouldn't make way against the headwind. About 25 knots of wind, 4-5 ft seas, snowing. Couldn't make any headway sailing against it, so tried motoring into it. No dice.
We were only making good about a knot. This was wind and seas only. No current.
I haven't seen it mentioned here, so you will definitely want a long shaft out board. Listening to a short shaft barking all day and getting you nowhere will drive you batty.
Good buy btw!

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[HappyMdRSailor]

Originally Posted by VinnyVincent

Well I checked everything out and it seemed good, so I pulled the trigger! Got it for 2500. Looks like it needs some small things plus the engine and I should out on the water!

Rock on man! This is GREAT!!!!

Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster

Sweet! Congratulations on becoming an owner! So which one did you buy? Got clear title etc? Motor is not a big issue at that price. $1400 will get you a brand new Nissan 6hp on sale at Cabelas, and a couple hundred more gets you a very nice mount. If you put a proper engine in, fix the old one, or go electric, it will still be a great backup or can be sold to recoup some of the purchase price.

Now time to roll up your sleeves and get to work. What you saved in dollars, you will now spend in sweat and blood lol! My suggestion actually is to just push off with a pole and go for a sail first thing, even without a motor. Nothing like that first time out to make you bond with your new to you boat. It makes all the work and expense seem worthwhile. I now raise my glass to you, and wish you the best, Captain Vinny.

DITTO!

Originally Posted by jkindredpdx

I had 5hp Honda on my Catalina 22. It was reliable. IMO, we focus so much on sailing, but most of the close calls come during docking under power. Reliable power (ie. New quality engine) is good insurance.

JimK

Yes

Originally Posted by VinnyVincent

Decided to go with a new engine. The 6hp is tempting due to lightwieght/cheap, but Id hate to buy it and it not be powerful enough.

The 9.9 is 600 dollars more and wieghs 90lbs. I have to motor out a few miles and under a bridge to get out in the bay,so Im thinking I may need the 9.9. Perhaps I should suck it up and spend the extra cash seeing how I practically stole the boat.

You will be happy you did... I guarantee it...

Originally Posted by FamilyVan

I think 9.9 would be the way to go. My Grampian 30 was similar to your Newport (1600 lbs more) and had an onboard atomic 4 with a fixed two bladed prop. It was by no means over powered. Atomics are around 30 hp.
I can recall at least once where I had to turn around and go home because my atomic just wouldn't make way against the headwind. About 25 knots of wind, 4-5 ft seas, snowing. Couldn't make any headway sailing against it, so tried motoring into it. No dice.
We were only making good about a knot. This was wind and seas only. No current.
I haven't seen it mentioned here, so you will definitely want a long shaft out board. Listening to a short shaft barking all day and getting you nowhere will drive you batty.
Good buy btw!

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Indeed...

[GrowleyMonster]

Oh, if you don't have an outboard mount and you decide to install one, be sure it is low enough to keep the prop well in the water if you start pitching a bit from stemming a bit of chop. And be sure to use backing plates inside the transom or you will be sorry, especially with the 9.9. Get a knowledgeable person to check out your plan before you start drilling holes. Be sure your rudder and outboard don't interfere with each other. You may need to move your stern light, too.

[VinnyVincent]

Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster

Oh, if you don't have an outboard mount and you decide to install one, be sure it is low enough to keep the prop well in the water if you start pitching a bit from stemming a bit of chop. And be sure to use backing plates inside the transom or you will be sorry, especially with the 9.9. Get a knowledgeable person to check out your plan before you start drilling holes. Be sure your rudder and outboard don't interfere with each other. You may need to move your stern light, too.

Previous owner did fiberglass for a living and he cut out the transom for an outboard. Do I need the adapter or can I just clamp the motor in the spot where he cut it out, since the long shaft should reach the water from there?

Also been oit here going over the boat. It was raining pretty bad and I discovered about half the windows leak(some are new)

Also found a log book from an old owner. I appears he boight it in 2005 for 12k, had a survey done, then subsequently got full coverage insurance. He also has a reciept for a new genoa, roller and a forestay installed in 2005 as well.

[Mark1977]

Originally Posted by VinnyVincent

Previous owner did fiberglass for a living and he cut out the transom for an outboard. Do I need the adapter or can I just clamp the motor in the spot where he cut it out, since the long shaft should reach the water from there?

Also been oit here going over the boat. It was raining pretty bad and I discovered about half the windows leak(some are new)

Also found a log book from an old owner. I appears he boight it in 2005 for 12k, had a survey done, then subsequently got full coverage insurance. He also has a reciept for a new genoa, roller and a forestay installed in 2005 as well.

This sounds concerning ....Any pictures of this/

[FamilyVan]

You should be able to mount without an expensive bracket if he did a cut out, but you'll likely want some plywood backing plates or something. It's hard to say without seeing it, but it sounds like you're on the right track and thinking about what you need to think about. I suspect you'll make the right call.
Don't stress about the windows, that's pretty standard in a boat of that vintage and design, just put it on your project list.
Most insurance companies will accept a survey that old for insurance purposes, but don't leave it too long, for many 10 years is kind of the threshhold for a new policy. You will likely need insurance if you want to keep the boat at a marina.