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Old 13-04-2022, 04:07   #1
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Loading the Boat via the Bow

Where I sail in Europe, we rarely have side docks (saves space). The typical set up is to dock perpendicular to the main dock, with the bow tied to the dock and the stern tied to a mooring ball that's around 1.5 x the boat's length from the main dock.

Stern-in isn't always possible when the dock is parallel to the shore and the water is too shallow for the rudder.

It's very difficult to load and unload heavy items (groceries, folding bike, gear bag) via the bow, which needs to be a fair distance from the dock. I've tried using the spinnaker halyard, carrying it forward onto the dock, attaching the load, letting the load gently swing down alongside the boat (using a second retaining line), then climbing aboard to haul the load over the lifelines. This is NOT idea. If the halyard is tied off too short, it won't reach the dock. If it's too long, the load will take a bath when it swings alongside.

Has anybody found a good technique for getting heavy loads on board via the bow?
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Passerelle[s], or Gangways/Gangplanks for Med Mooring:
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I just haul the bow docklines tight enough to bring the bow close enough to step on board.. slacken back off when done.
I have also used a wooden plank as a temp passerelle which I carried lashed to the stanchions at sea.
How/where it sits and attaches on your bow depends on your set up, I have had it sitting on and lashed to the lower tube on the pull pit or to one side lashed to a deck cleat and against the pull pit stanchion on the outer side.
Trial and error..
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Where I sail in Europe, we rarely have side docks (saves space). The typical set up is to dock perpendicular to the main dock, with the bow tied to the dock and the stern tied to a mooring ball that's around 1.5 x the boat's length from the main dock.

Stern-in isn't always possible when the dock is parallel to the shore and the water is too shallow for the rudder.

It's very difficult to load and unload heavy items (groceries, folding bike, gear bag) via the bow, which needs to be a fair distance from the dock. I've tried using the spinnaker halyard, carrying it forward onto the dock, attaching the load, letting the load gently swing down alongside the boat (using a second retaining line), then climbing aboard to haul the load over the lifelines. This is NOT idea. If the halyard is tied off too short, it won't reach the dock. If it's too long, the load will take a bath when it swings alongside.

Has anybody found a good technique for getting heavy loads on board via the bow?

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None of those will work on a sailboats bow where you have furling gear, anchor and bow roller, windlass etc to block installation.
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None of those will work on a sailboats bow where you have furling gear, anchor and bow roller, windlass etc to block installation.

My bad, I was to quick in reading, I was thinking stern.
Thanks for correcting me on that one.
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https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?thr...rrelle.186339/


https://setsail.com/passerals-part-two/


Basically,a HD aluminum ladder set at an angle from dock to P or S foredeck.


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Running your spinnaker halyard through the end of an up-angled spinnaker pole might keep the load from dipping into the water.
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The last link posted by Deblen is the best solution. Use the bow cleats as a solid anchoring point and have the tube parallel to the jetty and long enough to support the passarelle.
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The last link posted by Deblen is the best solution. Use the bow cleats as a solid anchoring point and have the tube parallel to the jetty and long enough to support the passarelle.
That's a really nice solution, very tidy result. Thanks for posting. Now I can add yet another boat project to the list.
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Ramp angled from ashore to side of bow behind bow pulpit. Drop the lifelines temporarily. Trouble is, now you have to carry a gangway around.
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https://www.bobvila.com/articles/bes...coping-ladder/


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Something like this? At least it’s less cumbersome to carry around.
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