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13-01-2011, 17:58
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Jeanneau Espace 1000 - Any Experience ?
Came accross these interesting boats that seem to have been built in the mid to late '80's. They are a 34ft deck saloon sloop that seem to just cram light and space inside, giving you a decent double with standing headroom amidships, conventional v berth to the front and a large open plan saloon/galley to aft with large windows and a second internal helm.
Seems like an ideal boat for someone like me making the transition from motor to sail, giving a nice balance of easy to manage size but still having a decent amount of space. Anyone have experience or opinions on them?
Also, how come there doesn't seem to be a newer equivilant? There are some makes of Deck Saloons in the 45ft+ range but I don't know of any in this size, were they not popular?
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14-01-2011, 14:02
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Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
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I have no personal opinion on this boat (seen one in a marina a few years ago, the owner was happy with it).
But My book (in French) about older sailing yachts says that it is a comfortable motor-sailer (architect: Philippe Briand), the hull is designed for sailing, the engine is powerful (30 to 60HP). On the centerboard version, a manual hydraulic ram is used to raise the centerboard. Even with a powerful genoa, it is slow in light airs; it is better suited to stronger winds, able to beat to windward without helping with the engine. Jeanneau built 228 of them.
It seems that motor-sailers went out of fashion 20 years ago in France.
Alain
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14-01-2011, 14:34
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Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
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Beneteau evasion is another option
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14-01-2011, 16:22
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Thanks for the heads up Salty, the Benateaus seem older so I guess they were the first to come up with the concept. Shame there's nothing similar a bit newer about but they do all look like great little boats to live aboard.
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14-01-2011, 16:43
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Im not sure what is newer, but if you like pilot houses and motor sailers, search yachtworld.com
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14-01-2011, 16:53
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Location: Ventura, CA
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Simon, do a search on Nauticat. I have to think the best motorsailer around. And no it is not a catamaran!
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14-01-2011, 17:10
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Nauticat is nice, but beefy. There are some listings here:
NauticatUSA
I like Fischers myself in the beefy line
FISHER OWNERS GROUP: Fishers For Sale
but there are faster PH and MS out there...yachtworld your heart and $ out.
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14-01-2011, 17:21
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There is also a Moody Eclipse 33 and a 43 version.
Pete
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14-01-2011, 17:38
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ooOOoooooh lets not forget the Moody.
I have too many dreams to list here
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14-01-2011, 18:55
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That Moody is soooooo pretty, but then, aren't they all?
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14-01-2011, 20:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
Beneteau evasion is another option
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That right there is a surrender-monkey joke waiting to happen.
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16-01-2011, 11:22
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The slightly larger and newer Espace 1100 (motorsailer version of the Sun Fizz) was sailed around the world in the early 1990s by a Japanese guy, see:
Espace 1100
I have been on board a couple, the central helm position appeard to work quite well and is near to the windscreen
There is not a lot on the web about any of the Espace models (660, 800. 990, 1000, 1100 & 1300) , but basic specs are at: Alize - Fantasia
and there is some useful detail on a charter site for the smaller sibling the Espace 990 at Windsong Sailing Charters - Jeanneau picture gallery - saling trips Tampa Bay and Clearwater Beach
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16-01-2011, 12:04
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DROOOL!!! =)...............
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18-01-2011, 16:46
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: UK
Boat: Moody 33 - Bijoro
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My father has an espace 1000 and I have a moody 33, the espace beats it on every point of sailing and inside is like a luxury apartment. Great boat, is in no way like a motor sailor.
If you want to know anything specific let me know
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