Jeanneau 2016 519 vs 2014 509 Sailing

[sailingmonika]

Hi all. Does anyone have any experience sailing on both models? We sailed a 519 and are now looking at a 509 which is in dry storage so we may not be able to get any extended sailing on it during a survey. The specs, length, water line look very similar between the 2. Loved the solid feel of the 519 and flat sailing in 20 knots of wind. Didn't get the weather helm that we had on our 2012 Beneteau 40. With short handed sailing (husband & myself) having more control will make me more comfortable when the weather gets rough and we are forced to sail through it (which as every experienced sailor knows happens.) Thanks!

[GreenWave]

no experience on those but I would ask them to splash the boat if you go to survey. No way I would buy a boat like that without a seatrial

[sailingmonika]

Thanks! We do plan to do that. But having gone through several boat surveys the wind does not always co-operate. If it is too light wind we won't get a feel for how it handles in heavier wind.

[GreenWave]

Originally Posted by sailingmonika

Thanks! We do plan to do that. But having gone through several boat surveys the wind does not always co-operate. If it is too light wind we won't get a feel for how it handles in heavier wind.

Ah yes- the wind. It drives sailors crazy right? Good luck with your search.

[HighTemp]

Very good friends with a former Jeanneau dealer and sailed a 409 for a couple of years.

Personally I see absolutely no difference between the two. No doubt Jeanneau made some minor improvements when the changed the model number, but they may have been related to creature comforts and not hull design or rig.

If I were in your position, and assuming that there is a significant price difference between the two, I would have to seriously consider the 509.

[Zzmeyer]

Check out sailboatdata.com. I believe they are the same hull. Dimensions are identical.

[Fbfisher]

Pay careful attention to how the systems operate (I.e., inverter, gfi outlets, underpowered generator, battery bank size, vhf locations, electronics package, etc.) I spent time on a 519, have a friend who owns one, and was disappointed and surprised at the shortcuts that were taken by the factory and during commissioning. For the money, I’d expect more. My friend enjoys the handling in a seaway, good sailing performance, but he’s a strong critic of the systems and such that leave much to be desired.

[aucoingc]

Originally Posted by sailingmonika

Hi all. Does anyone have any experience sailing on both models? We sailed a 519 and are now looking at a 509 which is in dry storage so we may not be able to get any extended sailing on it during a survey. The specs, length, water line look very similar between the 2. Loved the solid feel of the 519 and flat sailing in 20 knots of wind. Didn't get the weather helm that we had on our 2012 Beneteau 40. With short handed sailing (husband & myself) having more control will make me more comfortable when the weather gets rough and we are forced to sail through it (which as every experienced sailor knows happens.) Thanks!

Exact same hull! The 519 is a few inches longer due to the bow sprit extension. They sail the same. I own Isosceles, a 2012 509 Hull #0052. I’ve sailed her from San Francisco to the Eastern Mediterranean. Very seaworthy. Currently in Didim, Turkey.

[Ericson38]

Originally Posted by sailingmonika

Hi all. Does anyone have any experience sailing on both models? We sailed a 519 and are now looking at a 509 which is in dry storage so we may not be able to get any extended sailing on it during a survey. The specs, length, water line look very similar between the 2. Loved the solid feel of the 519 and flat sailing in 20 knots of wind. Didn't get the weather helm that we had on our 2012 Beneteau 40. With short handed sailing (husband & myself) having more control will make me more comfortable when the weather gets rough and we are forced to sail through it (which as every experienced sailor knows happens.) Thanks!

Why do these boats hold so little fuel ? It holds 63 gallons. Same with water at 163 gallons. Is that so that charter guests get more room since they aren't going far anyway ? Also, plastic for fuel and water.

[pschleck]

Originally Posted by Fbfisher

Pay careful attention to how the systems operate (I.e., inverter, gfi outlets, underpowered generator, battery bank size, vhf locations, electronics package, etc.) I spent time on a 519, have a friend who owns one, and was disappointed and surprised at the shortcuts that were taken by the factory and during commissioning. For the money, I’d expect more. My friend enjoys the handling in a seaway, good sailing performance, but he’s a strong critic of the systems and such that leave much to be desired.

Many of the systems are based on the options selected by the original owner. As an owner of two Jeanneau sailboats purchased new, there were different options for electronics, VHF remote stations and battery bank size. GFI outlets were added during commissioning. On a Jeanneau SO 379 there was no A/C vent in the head and I added that and a bow thruster. So the systems are often based on the requirements of the original owner and can vary.

You may get more info by posting your question in the Jeanneau Sailboat Owners Forum on Facebook.

[Fbfisher]

Originally Posted by pschleck

Many of the systems are based on the options selected by the original owner. As an owner of two Jeanneau sailboats purchased new, there were different options for electronics, VHF remote stations and battery bank size. GFI outlets were added during commissioning. On a Jeanneau SO 379 there was no A/C vent in the head and I added that and a bow thruster. So the systems are often based on the requirements of the original owner and can vary.

You may get more info by posting your question in the Jeanneau Sailboat Owners Forum on Facebook.

With so much variability in purchase and commissioning options, it’s why I think it important to assess these details for the boat in question. For example, the inverter on his boat only powers one outlet. Not what he expected and can’t figure out why, and he bought it new.