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Jd1 · 13-09-2011, 20:59

I have looked at a lot of different boats in Yachtworld but have not yet started my "real world" looking. From what I have seen so far, I would have to do a lot of compromising. I thought I would ask the group if there is anything close to the following wish list out there:

Suitable for blue water cruising
Easily handled by a couple with occasional single handing
40 ft or thereabouts, no more than 6 ft draft
I really like big beds ..... I would like a minimum of queen sized (I am used to a king sized bed). This would only be used while stationary so falling out won't be an issue

A large shower stall that a 6 ft 250 lb guy doesn't feel like a sardine in.

Please don't laugh or suggest a power boat ....
I realize that the bed requirement is a tall order but one can dream and I better ask the question before I settle for "normal" sleeping arrangements.

**skipmac** · 13-09-2011, 21:18

Not such a difficult request. Plenty of center cockpit, aft cabin boats with large, even queen size beds in the 40-44' range. Don't know of any king size.

My Pearson 422 has that and a shower but the shower would be a bit cramped for 250'. I'm 6', 175 and fit ok but don't have a lot of extra elbow room.

I think the CSY 44 may have a bigger shower. It certainly has a large bed in the aft cabin.

Domenic · 13-09-2011, 21:22

Here is a key designers hold tight..."The more room you have, the more junk you will fill it with...the less room you will have."

If you cruise, the cockpit is great for a shower when it rains. Water is worth more than gold at sea...it will depend on where you go. When thinking about boat size, the best size is what you can handle alone. put land comfort near the bottom of the list. Look for a good sea kindly boat that will take you through the worst weather. After the third day out, you will be able to sleep on an anchor chain like a baby in mama's arms. Food water, and parts will take most of the room.
You will love it. If you need all the comforts of home, don't leave home.

zeehag · 13-09-2011, 21:23

gulfstar sailmaster 44, 47, and i think there is a 38, but not certain. built american for the big guy.l

**skipmac** · 13-09-2011, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Domenic

Here is a key designers hold tight..."The more room you have, the more junk you will fill it with...the less room you will have."

If you cruise, the cockpit is great for a shower when it rains. Water is worth more than gold at sea...it will depend on where you go. When thinking about boat size, the best size is what you can handle alone. put land comfort near the bottom of the list. Look for a good sea kindly boat that will take you through the worst weather. After the third day out, you will be able to sleep on an anchor chain like a baby in mama's arms. Food water, and parts will take most of the room.
You will love it. If you need all the comforts of home, don't leave home.

Cockpit shower in New England in early fall can be a bit bracing. Sailing does not have to mean giving up comforts.

Domenic · 13-09-2011, 21:45

If you read my post, I said; "it will depend on where you go."
The larger the boat, the more the cost. Marinas, haul out, repairs, etc.
Do you live on your boat?

Jd1 · 13-09-2011, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Domenic

put land comfort near the bottom of the list. Look for a good sea kindly boat that will take you through the worst weather.

That is all well and good if your goal is to be continuously on the move but what if you want to stop and smell the roses ?

zeehag · 13-09-2011, 21:53

get on down her e to pair a dice so you can have a cockpit shower that doesnt give ye a brain freeze.....

hay !! i got a seakindly boat that gets me thru weather AND sits decently to rest in comfort.
roses--we got no stinkin roses, but there are lots of other growing flowers and trees to see and fishies to train and fatten....
.and mangos and coconutz and gooood fishies......

Domenic · 13-09-2011, 21:57

Skip, are you on the(hot) west coast of Fla? Zee is in matzalan.

Jd1 · 13-09-2011, 22:04

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Originally Posted by zeehag

gulfstar sailmaster 44, 47, and i think there is a 38, but not certain. built american for the big guy.l

The Sailmaster doesn't show on the magic list of seaworthy boats - are they rated for ocean passages ?

zeehag · 13-09-2011, 22:05

yes. built like brick sh\***houses for cruising.

built in usa in 1970s and as late as 1984.

should be waaay ahead of any modern boats for seaworthiness.

Jd1 · 13-09-2011, 22:28

I guess I am automatically looking at a center cockpit design.
Is there anything out there more recently built - let's say early to mid 1990's ? Getting a 20 - 30 year old boat scares me .... from the maintenance aspect.

Nauticatarcher · 13-09-2011, 22:57

I'm 6'2" 130kg and never had a problem with our Nauticat 44, used to love the fact it had a seperate Shower stall and good headroom

Domenic · 13-09-2011, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Jd1

I guess I am automatically looking at a center cockpit design.
Is there anything out there more recently built - let's say early to mid 1990's ? Getting a 20 - 30 year old boat scares me .... from the maintenance aspect.

Older boats were built stronger. My Columbia has a hull thickness at the sheer of 1.25" to 2.5" at the keel. They call these old boats tanks.
It is most of the new stuff that should scare you. Most new boats are built over seas. The resin is not as good as that made in the states.