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Old 28-01-2021, 19:02   #61
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

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here's my $2,000 Bristol in Winds over 30 knots.

Not hard on the body for the 3 hour crossing.
Great vid! Bristol's are highly under rated IMO. They are on a par with (and maybe better than) the Cape Dory's and Alden's of the same era.
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Old 28-01-2021, 19:04   #62
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The heyday of boats in this range was in the early-mid 70's.
(fiberglass doesn't rot... )
Well, there are other threads that have already addressed them, so I kinda know what they are like. At this point, my mind is set on a new one. Fiberglass doesn't rot, but still will cause issues in 40 - 50 yrs time. But this decision of mine is not about that. Right now, I have at least 2 good boats on my list. I'm looking into some shorter ones as well. Worst case scenerio, I might jump on a 30ft one - after a series of classes, not ideal though. This is as far as this post can go; I think I went through all the new 27ers on the market.
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Old 28-01-2021, 19:05   #63
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I don't think I'm set with 27'rs anymore. I'll either go shorter ~22 or go with something ~30ft, which wouldn't be a starter boat.
One thing I don't think has been mentioned: when you narrow your search, see what you can find on the owner forums. Most boat models have them.
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Old 01-02-2021, 06:54   #64
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

Likely you are intending to gunkhole as a 27 footer is a poor choice for Bluewater/offshore of any distance. So having sailed a Catalina 27 I found it entirely adequate for some weekend sailing in say the Chesapeake area or Mahone Bay area. Works well for a couple and two kids and is a great beginning cruiser. Beneteau 27 would be a step up but the Catalina does it all. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Orion Jim;3330158]Alerion 28

Ditto for the Alerion 28.
If you want a faster boat look at the Andrew’s 28.
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

Sailing slow is frustrating...Sailing fast is fun!!

Check out a Corsair:

https://corsairmarine.com/corsair-760/

Also check out this youtube channel with vids of the bigger sister Corsair 880



These are really fun boats, and you can weekend with them. You could go coastal cruising strictly "in season" too. Not a candidate for offshore.
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

The Nor'Sea 27 is a heavily-rigged sloop with moderate displacement, a shoal draft of 3” 10' and the 8ft beam which allows trailering without a permit. On the early boats ballast packages of standard (2500 lbs) and heavy (3000 lbs) were offered but since 1980 all boats have 3100 lbs of encapsulated lead ballast
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The Nor'Sea 27 is a heavily-rigged sloop with moderate displacement, a shoal draft of 3” 10' and the 8ft beam which allows trailering without a permit. On the early boats ballast packages of standard (2500 lbs) and heavy (3000 lbs) were offered but since 1980 all boats have 3100 lbs of encapsulated lead ballast.
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

https://bluewaterboats.org/bristol-channel-cutter-28
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Old 01-02-2021, 07:48   #70
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

Have you checked out the Seaward 26? I boarded this boat at the Miami boat show years ago. For 'gunkholing' these have a retractable keel, you push a button and an electric winch raises the keel. Slick. I thought it was a nice looking, well built, coastal cruiser.



I ended up with a Hirondelle 'Family' 23 catamaran with a carbon fiber aero-rig mast (and only one control line) it draws only 2.5ft with fixed keels but, these boats are no longer in production.
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Whoops. It looks like Seaward 26 (Hake yachts) is out of production. I had heard that they merged with Island Packet and were producing boats in Largo, Florida, but the current Island packet website does not list the Seaward 26 as an available new boat.
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

For the type of sailing that you will be doing, either the Catalina or Beneteau would be fine. I have sailed both and own a Catalina. We have day sailed and overnighted on it for years and I have singlehanded as well. Very satisfied with the Catalina.
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I'm planning to buy a brand new sailboat; the only solid decision of the process so far!? TY though.
You might look at a TomCat 6.2...it's shorter but much wider than the other boats you've come up with, so available space would be similar. With the camper top canvas, it's still under $50k. Should be very sporty if you don't overload it and you could weekend using the camper top.

Really, I'm not getting the heavy focus on 27ft. At that size, it's not very practical to tow it home every weekend and once you get a permanent slip, the annual cost will likely be the same as a 30-35ft boat. Jumping up to 30-35ft will give you a lot more options and much more comfortable boat (likely faster with the longer LWL). Plus you won't take the huge depreciation hit.

22-28ft monohulls are dirt cheap on the used market because there are plentiful 30-35ft monohulls and they are much better suited to to cruisers, so you can plan on getting very little when you do sell a 27fter even relatively new.
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Sailing slow is frustrating...Sailing fast is fun!!

Check out a Corsair:

https://corsairmarine.com/corsair-760/

Also check out this youtube channel with vids of the bigger sister Corsair 880



These are really fun boats, and you can weekend with them. You could go coastal cruising strictly "in season" too. Not a candidate for offshore.
I completely forgot about trimarans...Several options in the 27ft range. They will blow away monos of similar size for performance and many have folding amas so you can get into normal slips for storage. If it's just an occasional weekend, the cabins will work fine.
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Re: In production 27 ft sailboats.

I like the harbor 25 a lot but not many around.
https://wdschockcorp.com/harbor-25


I think Dehler has an under 30 model not sure if anyone in the US stocks them.



For more dayboats the Tartan fantail or Colgate 26 are interesting.



There used to more options but not much anymore. New boats in that size range don't sell well in the US.



Personally I would go for the Harbor or the Alerion if not worried about budget. In reality I think when you add in for budget and cabin space the Beneteau may be a better buy.
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