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Old 16-09-2020, 16:37   #1
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Identifying a mystery boat

Here's a fun mystery. I've been on the lookout for a project boat to work on, and I spotted this neglected girl at Ontario marina. She's a bit of an oddity: a ketch with a (modified) full keel, but relatively short in length. (Perhaps not even 30 feet.) I asked at the marina office, but they recited Canada's official mantra ("Due to privacy laws, we cannot....")


I snapped the attached photo and went searching online, but I can't find the model. (I thought the distinctive cabin silhouette would be easy to spot, but no.)

Anybody have any wisdom about the model? I'd like to research its particulars before nudging the marina staff to contact the owner on my behalf.
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Old 16-09-2020, 16:58   #2
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The fact the marina wouldn't tell you even a make or model is hilarious...
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The fact the marina wouldn't tell you even a make or model is hilarious...
I hear you. I teach at college and university now and then when the Visa is bleeding too much, and professors are taught that if we ever have to call a student's home and someone other than the student answers, we're not allowed to leave a message beyond 'Tell them I called.' Why not? Because Canadian privacy laws forbid us from informing anyone in the student's household that they are a student at that particular university -- even their parents.
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Old 16-09-2020, 17:28   #4
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Wow, privacy laws prevent them from telling you what kind of a boat it is!!

I refrain myself from asking my yard guy about a “mystery” boat or else we end up talking about it for the next 2 hours and I can’t get any work done. 😳
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Buddy, I'm reporting you for letting out that deep dark secret! Now tell me, exactly WHICH college and university do you teach at?!?


No help on identity of the boat though. It has really nice lines though!
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Old 16-09-2020, 18:16   #6
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I recall seeing something similar to that boat at the Port Of Newcastle on the hard but I could be wrong... Was a couple years ago now but the picture posted made me think of that immediately.
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Can't help on the make but it looks over 40 feet to me. Too many windows for a 30fter.
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Can't help on the make but it looks over 40 feet to me. Too many windows for a 30fter.
Looks like it should be based on config, but she's small. Click on pic, zoom, and note the tiny one-person cockpit, the size of the anchor, the height of the stanchions, etc, for perspective. Standing before her, I found myself uncertain it was as big as a Nordica 30 I recently investigated (and that one was actually just a 29.5 footer).

I see where you're coming from though -- the long raised cabin and its windows are indeed odd for a boat that small.
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Those are large boat stands. I think the draft is close to 6ft. Also that's probably a 6 ft fence behind it even though it is a little bit back. Also, pretty much all boats have the same size stantions regardless of loa. The cockpit is small but it's basically the size of a Tayana 37. That's the way they were designed back then.
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Looks like it should be based on config, but she's small. Click on pic, zoom, and note the tiny one-person cockpit, the size of the anchor, the height of the stanchions, etc, for perspective. Standing before her, I found myself uncertain it was as big as a Nordica 30 I recently investigated (and that one was actually just a 29.5 footer).

I see where you're coming from though -- the long raised cabin and its windows are indeed odd for a boat that small.


Do you have any other picture?
If you get back there bring a measuring tape, that boat looks like 38 ft
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Newporter circa late 60’s?
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Those are large boat stands. I think the draft is close to 6ft. Also that's probably a 6 ft fence behind it even though it is a little bit back. Also, pretty much all boats have the same size stantions regardless of loa. The cockpit is small but it's basically the size of a Tayana 37. That's the way they were designed back then.
I'd be happy to be wrong, and I understand that it's hard to get perspective from a pic. The pic I included was cropped. I'm now attaching the non-cropped pic here, since it shows the bumper of my Dodge Grand Caravan -- it gives a clearer idea of perspective. (Height to the roof of a Grand Caravan: 68".) Also, note the size of the bucket under the boat.

To cut to the chase.... My point about the stanchions was not that they were unusual -- the opposite, they are quite usual, and thus were a touchstone for size. Standard stanchion height is 24". I just measured these stanchions' height on the screen and then measured how many "stanchion heights" the boat was from the stern to the bow along the toe railing. Answer: 14.5 stanchion heights long. Thus, FWIW, I come up with 29 feet in my admittedly imprecise calculations.
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Newporter circa late 60’s?
I looked it up. I see where you're coming from! The windows and cabin seem like a cousin to the Newporter. Alas, I can only find "Newporter 40," so perhaps that was the only Newporter model, and this mystery girl is much smaller. (If you look at the cockpit in the pic, you can see the wheel pedestal. Inferring from that, you can see that the top of the cabin is really only sternum high.)
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Re: Identifying a mystery boat

Viewing the image at 100%:

The stanchions are 70 pixels high
The boat is 1035 pixels LOA
A standard stanchion height is 610mm

So LOA = 1025 * 70 * 0.61 = 8.8 metres = 28.9 ft




Added: I see Buddy beat me to it while I was measuring.
He and I agree on the length!
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So LOA = 1025 * 70 * 0.61 = 8.8 metres = 28.9 ft

Added: I see Buddy beat me to it while I was measuring.
Sure, but I did it from an Ikea couch in a crappy apartment in a dull town beside a Southern Ontario highway. You did it from a Belize Maestro 43 in the South Pacific. You win.
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