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26-09-2018, 19:38
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Indianapolis
Boat: MacGregor 26
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I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Today I took a huge recertification exam for my medical speciality and then met A guy from Craigslist and bought his boat. It is a 1994 MacGregor, in great shape. It was stored indoors 15 years of its life. I wanted an entry-level boat I could tow easily and use on the lakes around me.
The water ballast and swing keel make towing much easier. I’m hoping my Sienna AWD will be able to handle it, but nervous about pulling it out with a full ballast tank.
Anyway... just sharing my excitement!
Also... can I put vinyl decals on the hull? A friend does them and it would look great with the name all snazzed up.
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26-09-2018, 22:18
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
Posts: 21,619
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Nope, vinyl decals are not allowed on MacGregors. Any other boat, sure, but not MacGregors. [emoji41]🤥
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26-09-2018, 22:29
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 15,322
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Congratulations Doc! I think the Sienna will do ok with it, but drain the ballast for sure. I haven't done it but I presume you could pull the boat out slowly and/or in stages to let the water drain? I'd empty out as much of the extra items as you can too. Good luck!
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26-09-2018, 22:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island, BC
Boat: 1969 30 Mariner Sedan Cruiser
Posts: 760
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Congrats and sail her often to get your money's worth.
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27-09-2018, 06:10
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Sienna - barely, on the flat going slow, maybe.
If you don't have the tow package, add a transmission cooler, and a trannie temp gauge, and **watch it**, that's your weak link.
Lightest possible trailer **with good brakes**, empty tanks, only the driver in the van no loads.
Will wear out the drivetrain faster for sure no matter what, to the extent you pull it often.
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27-09-2018, 06:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Indianapolis
Boat: MacGregor 26
Posts: 263
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Thanks, that is my concern. We have a land rover that could easily tow it but do not have a hitch on it at the moment. Or receiver technically, I think the hitch is built in. I also have access to my dad’s suburban that could do it no problem.
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27-09-2018, 07:09
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Oops, I forgot to say welcome.
Welcome to CF.
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For all of your celestial navigation questions: https://navlist.net/
A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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27-09-2018, 08:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Sweden
Boat: 73´ULDB custom ketch
Posts: 1,069
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Welcome! These are great boats. You will have much fun with it.
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27-09-2018, 09:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Canada
Boat: T37
Posts: 2,338
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Also check out the Macgregor owners site macgregorsailors.com, lot of good boat and model specific info there, including towing.
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27-09-2018, 09:34
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,766
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Moving the boat once hooked up with the Sienna should work. But that single axle trailer looks like it probably has a lot of tongue weight... that could be the problem. Does the trailer have surge brakes?
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27-09-2018, 09:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Beaufort, NC, USA
Boat: Ta Chiao 56
Posts: 753
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
The empty boat and trailer combined are close to the max towing capacity of the Sienna. Leaving the water ballast full will put you over by about 25%. You really don’t want to do that. The van might take it for a
while, but if you were to get in an accident you could be found negligent. But I’d bet the first time you tow it empty you’ll start looking for a better fit. Put a hitch on the rover,.
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27-09-2018, 09:56
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Use the Suburban, 100x safer.
It's not what you can pull that matters, it's braking and handling when SHTF and a heavier TV is always much much better.
Plus added loads that are inevitable IRL are properly handled.
With the Sienna, or even the shorty LR, you are setting yourself up for exceeding the safety limits.
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27-09-2018, 09:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
Our first sailboat was a MacGregor 26X we had a great time in her (Named ANNA QUAY) Probably quite appropriate for us newbies. It was great to see a squall coming and be able to drop sails and the mast and motor back (at 22kts) to Port before it arrived, which also dumped the ballast. 18 Months later we sold her (to be honest it was a bit of a pain having to tow her to the coast for weekends and the Occasional week away). And purchased a Hanse 331, a great little boat (took us across the English channel to the Channel Islands and France. Sold her in Mid 2010 and purchased a Dehler DS 41 which we've had for 7 years now, but have now decided to downsize to something around 10m (Maybe a Moody Eclipse). Anyone looking for a Dehler Deck Saloon, she's at Hamble Point to view.
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27-09-2018, 09:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Homosassa, FL (boat is for sale in NJ)
Boat: 1998 Bayliner Avanti 3685 - 38' long
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
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Originally Posted by Don C L
Congratulations Doc! I think the Sienna will do ok with it, but drain the ballast for sure. I haven't done it but I presume you could pull the boat out slowly and/or in stages to let the water drain? I'd empty out as much of the extra items as you can too. Good luck!
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The following is what I found online. The Mac is one boat that I wished I would've bought a few years ago as the wife likes to motor and I like to sail but here's the specs:
Water ballast:1150 lbs
Permanent ballast: 300 lbs
Boat weight, empty:2550 lbs
Trailer weight with surge brakes:575 lbs
Overall, I see no issue with towing by the Sienna with some due considerations (maybe increase rear springs [add a leaf], transmission cooler, etc.); that being said - if you have the availability of something better (which it seems you do!), I'd use the "something better". Nice boat though, ENJOY!!
ps - put decals all over the boat . . . hehe
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27-09-2018, 10:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,067
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Re: I am now a sailboat owner... 26’ MacGregor
I go out about once a week on my friends Mac 26. He keeps it in the water 6 months and stores it on land during the winter. He wants me to help him take it out of the water around the end of October so I'll see what's involved in the de-masting operation.
He used to pull the kids and grandkids tubing and water skiing and it's just about the only sailboat that can make that claim. Water skiing with the mast up... that's totally freaky. 
Have fun.  
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