Originally Posted by Steady Hand
Since you are familiar with the Pogo brand boats, and mention a cruising design (36?) what is the cost of such a boat in USD $ ? You may have answered this before, but I don't recall the amount.
Also, earlier you used the analogy of training
wheels on a bike to explain one aspect of the current
Chines on the boats intended for singlehanded racing. I found that humorous but a good analogy.
I don't think Pogo is selling on the US and I don't think American sailors are much on the Pogo concept
that is about max fun on a seaworthy
cruising boat with functional but kind of spartan accommodations. On my blog there is a post by a owner of a Pogo 12.50, a Belgian surgeon, about 60 year's old. I believe that if you look at that you will have an insight about the ones that are buying
that boat. Cannot be very young since a performance boat is always more expensive than a mass market main boat and even those are expensive for a young man.
Pogo started to be a French thing connected with the special interest French had for many years for ocean offshore
racing, namely mini racing. Now that interest is spreading and there are many Europeans interested to the point that the major French Transat (every 4 years) was won on the biggest class (40class) by an all Spanish team
The last ones seem to be the British, that traditionally are quite conservative about boast, almost as much as Americans
On the last edition of Yachtingworld, a particularly interesting one in what refers modern boats, they have an interesting article by an old British sailor that seems to have been converted to the solo fast cruising concept
. The Article is "The Pogo factor". You can download the magazine on Zinio if you wish.
Regarding the price
, the Pogo 10.50 that this one is going to substitute costed about 165 000 euros. You may find expensive but the ones that know about boats and quality/price now that it is not. This is a 3 600kg 36ft boat and to have that weight it has to be built like a racing offshore
boat, with top materials and great care. For having that price
they don't bring their boats to boat shows (not even to Paris) they don't make publicity and they don't have dealers. You buy it directly to the factory.
Regarding the learning
wheels maybe the idea that I wanted to express was not entirely clear: to be able to sail solo a powerful racing sailboat near their maximum potential even the best professional sailors need those learning
wheels and on that sense the word "learning" is not adjusted to the reality, since they are the best. perhaps being better looked as a added help to tame alone those beasts. without them they would be slower not faster.
With more reason the same can be said to cruising and cruising boats. Modern cruising boats are more and more powerful, always faster and without those and other helps (furling sails
, automatic reefing from the cockpit
, chines, electric
winches) they would be dificult to sail by small inexperienced crews, or solo.
Pogo is the more know brand but there are more belonging to the same "species" and they are increasing in number.
There is a nice guy circumnavigating on a boat from the same family
, a small Django 7.70 and he accepts another sailor for each leg I believe he is in South America
now, maybe that may be of interest to some forum member's:
Le voilier, un Django 7.70
Django is making two bigger boats that will be a direct competition with Pogo as it is already the Malango.
If someone is really interested why not a charter
week in one? There is a Greek company that has a small fleet of them for charter
. Here a movie
made on one of them: