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08-01-2016, 08:50
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High Freeboaard Sailoat
Hi all
Just to know, what are the pros/cons of high freeboard sailboat?
With i high i means 2 meters (6.6 feet).
As far as i know
Pros:
Interior space
Less wave that goes on the deck (drier ride)
Cons
When reaching the boat will try to go against the wind ( i don't know how is said in english)
Difficult mooring in case of wind, especially gust and sidewind (even with bow and stern thruster)
MAYBE difficult to get out of the boat when in marina (longer, more slooped ladder)
Do i miss something?
I was giving a look at garcia exploration 45, and its very beautiful And it has a very high freeboard...
Thanks all for help
Stefano
Higher ladder to get out of the water when swimming at the anchor
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08-01-2016, 09:16
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Doesn't look anywhere near 6'+ freeboard. Draft, maybe.
Garcia Exploration 45
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08-01-2016, 09:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Hi Stefano -
We have a boat with very high freeboard and there is nothing terrible about it when at a dock, yes a custom set of steps to get to the dock, yes getting dogs, provisions, etc is difficult in stormy conditions. I like the privacy when at the dock - people strolling along can't just peer in and see us in our underwear!
We are refitting now so spend all our time at the dock but I am already concerned about getting in and out of the dinghy when at anchor. I will need something very strong (and probably expensive) to make multiple trips carrying loads back and forth.
Ours may be much higher than what you're looking at though. Good luck!
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08-01-2016, 09:55
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Garcia 45's are nice boats.. did one in 2014..
Nowhere near 6ft freeboard.
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08-01-2016, 09:58
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Registered User
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Quote:
Originally Posted by redhead
Hi Stefano -
We have a boat with very high freeboard and there is nothing terrible about it when at a dock, yes a custom set of steps to get to the dock, yes getting dogs, provisions, etc is difficult in stormy conditions. I like the privacy when at the dock - people strolling along can't just peer in and see us in our underwear!
We are refitting now so spend all our time at the dock but I am already concerned about getting in and out of the dinghy when at anchor. I will need something very strong (and probably expensive) to make multiple trips carrying loads back and forth.
Ours may be much higher than what you're looking at though. Good luck!
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very nice, interiorly you can stand up and no problem for all the beam?
Oh yes, didn't thought about get up and down the and from dinghy
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08-01-2016, 10:01
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Registered User
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
About garcia, it looks about 1,7 - 1,8 meters (about 6 feet) hight inside (in the exterior part)...
Any other ideas of very livable boat design/style and brands?
Even trawler just have room in the bow, then all the rest at level...
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08-01-2016, 10:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
You seem to be concerned about a non-issue. Freeboard on that boat is normal for its size.
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"whatever spare parts you bring, you'll never need"--goboatingnow
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08-01-2016, 10:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Quote:
Originally Posted by stefano_ita
About garcia, it looks about 1,7 - 1,8 meters (about 6 feet) hight inside (in the exterior part)...
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My boat has 1,80m (max) headroom inside. It has nowhere near that high a freeboard.
Don't forget you are usually standing below the waterline when inside.
Also, just the freeboard tells you exactly nothing if you don't know the length of a boat.
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08-01-2016, 10:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Tall freeboard may add to stability and better skid properties BUT tall freeboard will expose more area to the oncoming seas and so the impact (e.g. of a breaker) will be stronger. S.c. mixed blessing or else 'two in one'.
Tall freeboard may add to darkness inside ;-) (down below). This is entirely a designers issue, not tall freeboard feature. But I did find many tall freeboard boats simply 'coffin-like' down below. You may want plenty of light, you may want visibility around from down below. Very personal, but not to be disregarded.
As with anything, excess in any direction (too much as well as too little freeboard) is OK when there is a strong argument for your case, otherwise stay half way to avoid any unforeseen pitfalls.
Ciao,
b.
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08-01-2016, 14:45
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Con - long way from the deck to the dock.
Pro - space, space, space, space and ....................... space
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08-01-2016, 14:52
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Registered User
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Roger get it
Thanks
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09-01-2016, 05:20
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Registered User
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Posts: 473
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
GH37 Photo Gallery - Great Harbour Trawlers
What about one of this, how does it behave in strong wind?
Imagine it without the upper deck, with mast and sails ( ordinary sloop) and a lifting keel...
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09-01-2016, 05:30
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
high freeboard=dryer ride in seas.
lower freeboard is wetter ride.
unless sailing places with rough and steep seas--then all is wet.
much ado about nothing.
i have noticed that, by side, those with allegedly low freeboard--hunters, catalinas, beneteaus and others are still as tall as is my formosa.
sail the boat then bitch if you dislike the handling and benefits it offers.
ps...if you wish something that handles well in high winds, donot buy a sloop.
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09-01-2016, 05:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
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Originally Posted by stefano_ita
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Those things are like an apartment inside. But comical to watch on a day with a strong crosswind.
But just like a small airplane they manage by crabbing. Mind you it's still a lot of freeboard and a very small wetted surface.
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09-01-2016, 05:41
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Re: High Freeboaard Sailoat
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag
high freeboard=dryer ride in seas.
lower freeboard is wetter ride.
unless sailing places with rough and steep seas--then all is wet.
much ado about nothing.
i have noticed that, by side, those with allegedly low freeboard--hunters, catalinas, beneteaus and others are still as tall as is my formosa.
sail the boat then bitch if you dislike the handling and benefits it offers.
ps...if you wish something that handles well in high winds, donot buy a sloop.
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Thanks
Wich is according to you is the best rig for offshore cruise?
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