Help Identifying a Boat

[Rabid]

Hello,

I'm new to these forums and sailing in general.

I've found a boat being sold locally that I'm interested in, but the seller is a broker and doesn't know much about the boat other than documentation he has. I was wondering if you fine folks may be able to help me shed a little light on exactly what this boat is.

I've attached pictures and below is what the broker says he has for information:

This was the first reply I got back when I questioned what the boat was.
"When i went to get the title from the dmv they said the vin # was registered to 2 boats. a 34 catalina 1990 model and a windjammer custom 34 1989 model."

In the second picture link you can clearly see an "AM" on the bottom coat of paint which brings me to believe this is the windjammer custom instead of the catalina.

Then I asked for more specific vin(hin) information and got this.
"the title i have for it says the following. identification # 00004578, year 1990, make SOG, length 34, title # 101635188, previous state Al. use vessel, Vessel manufacturer Catalina boats, Material fiberglass propulsion sail. Date of issue 11/4/2008"

I would really appreciate any info anyone could provide.

Here are a few links to outside pictures I took. The rudder area looks to be unique to most of the larger boats I've seen. Sorry that the first one is fuzzy.

http://www.fergp25.com/wordpress/uploads/boat1.jpg
http://www.fergp25.com/wordpress/uploads/boat2.jpg

[TaoJones]

You don't provide nearly enough information to go on, but I'd guess, just based on the two pictures, that it isn't anything Catalina ever built. I think you're right that it used to have Windjammer written on it, as I think I can read "AMMER," but that may have been the name someone gave it at some point.

I'm surprised that the broker isn't putting more effort into getting you more information if he's really interested in selling the boat. If it's his listing, or his office's listing, they can easily get in touch with the owner and try to get more info for you.

If I had to guess, based on the information you've provided, I'd say it's a homebuilt or from a builder who went belly up. If you post more pictures that show the entire hull in a wider shot, it would be helpful. Does the vessel have a name?

TaoJones

[sarafina]

Don't think Catalina ever made a flush deck did they?

[rjrap]

I may be wrong here, which won't be a shock, but I've only seen one 34ft Windjammer and it was gaff rigged. Should be able to look up the stick and see if it is.

Its certainly not a Catalina. I agree that the broker sounds very evasive.

Ray

[skipmac]

I've never seen or heard of a Catalina with a pointy stern and outboard rudder. Don't know about Windjammers.

[FSMike]

100% it's not a Catalina.
99% it's not gaff rigged.

[skipmac]

The hull lines that I can see remind me a bit of a Bruce Roberts design. That would fit with the possibly homebuilt theory.

[janley]

The boat looks very much like a Windjammer 34. We bought one in the Puget Sound area the fall of 2008 and sailed it this past summer to Seward, Alaska. The previous owner promised to send me "construction drawings" but I haven't heard from him since despite several calls and emails. I know International Offshore Marine(John White) built it in Santa Anna, CA in 1983. I also know John White formed a new company,Mediterranean Yachts, a few years later. He recently retired. I tried sending him a letter from an address I found on the web. It came back undeliverable.

That's all I know but would like to know more.

rick

[marc2012]

They are nice looking boats what ever they are.marc

[Viking 1]

Recently bought what I thought was a Kendall 32. The Hull id says WJY 00007 479 So now understanding it to likely be Hull 7 from Windjammer Yachts.

[SkiprJohn]

I couldn't download your photos but if looks like the boat Janley has pictured I'd get a buyer's broker or find a different boat. The broker selling the boat is an idiot for even suggesting its a Catalina.

[zeehag]

2010 thread,.. mebbe already did that. have a great day.

[SkiprJohn]

To us old dudes 2010 seems like yesterday. Sorry about that. Didn't look at the date.

[idcruiser]

I bought a Windjammer 34' from the original owner in San Francisco. An ad from a 1979 Cruising World ad gives some insight. I found the ad on Google Books. I'll recount the text of the ad:

Brand New! Windjammer 34' A Colin Archer double ended cruiser with flush deck-a real ocean tamer! One piece hand laminated hull ($7,450), fiberglass for and aft decks, strong laminated-wood center deck beams and fiberglass rudder ($3,107). Write for our money-saving FIRST OWNER PLAN - Windjammer Yachts, Box 5782, Huntington Beach, CA 92646

I have many pictures and would be interested in sharing information about this great boat. We have sailed it in the Puget Sound area for the last ten years.