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Old 09-10-2003, 17:21   #16
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We have an old style full keel , heavy displacment , and she loves 25 deg. but it takes alot of canvas to get there . 7'6" draft 28000# of lead
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Old 09-10-2003, 18:05   #17
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Jeff H... I agree RE: your remarks IMS type forms, however, I still consider the form stability type hulls "modern hulls"...And, unless I am mistaken, they do like to be sailed like the IMS type form generally speaking...I was trying to address what I believe most on this board would consider as a modern hull, though I may be mistaken in my assumption...I didn't think anyone on this sight had a boat designed to the IMS - (or the ILC maxi rules)...I shouldn't have assumed such...As always I appreciate your knowledge--
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Old 09-10-2003, 20:05   #18
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WOW! sy Dolce Vita ...28000 pounds of lead ballast is alot...I'd like to hear more about her...How big is:

1) The boat/ size LOA, LOD, Beam, Displacement...

2) The crew

3) I'd love to hear about the systems...rig, rigging, groung tackle etc..,


4) any Pictures? I'd love to see her...


I've dreamed of owning a big sailing "ship", but don't know much about them really, and think I'll ever be able to actually pull off owning one though... Need any crew ?
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Old 10-10-2003, 16:53   #19
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sy Dolce Vita Okay...I think I got confused....I saw picture of your boat (I think anyway?) on another board today...is this it?



Beautiful Formosa if I am not mistaken, Nice boat...
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Old 10-10-2003, 17:13   #20
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Yea that's us but we displace 84000# . 62' loa 57' lod beam 16'9"
full keel 7'6" draft . Crew of three . Capt. Michael , Admiral Carol & swaby shags the cat
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Off the subject, but what's the cat think of the boat ? I haven't tried mine yet, my current boat has a center mounted porta-potty with a helm station bolted to the aft side ... no cabin.

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sy Dolce Vita...Thats a big boat...you could hang my live-aboard 34 footer from your dinghy davits!
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Dolce Vita!

Doesn't that mean" The Good Life"? With just two people and a cat on that yacht a lack of privacy would not be an annoyance
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Old 11-10-2003, 17:58   #24
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Cascadefixer -Dolce Vita means "Sweet Life "
Troubledour -The swabbie grew up on the boat and knows no other way of life .
Brad - You have it figured out . that is to say "Cruise Now & Get Old Later .& Enjoy the Kids
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Thanks Dolce...Looks like you've got it figured out too, and are living it Larger! I have so many people who ask me "what are you going to do when you reach "REAL" retirement age"...I say well, I'm not sure what real retirement IS, but this is how I'll continue living my life until I can't... when I get to old to sail like I want to, I'll get a job at Wal-Mart if I have to and tell my adventures to all the old people who never went and did anything, and now are to old too"...I always get a queer kind look

Here's to making it happen...
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Old 11-10-2003, 21:50   #26
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Wink A favorite quote!

"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bow lines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover"

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Old 12-10-2003, 16:57   #27
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This thread has gone pretty far a field but to answer BradBarrett's comments of a few days ago, I think we are in agreement that my use of the term "modern hulls" left the door open for high form stability hull forms of the Open Class boats.

When I think of 'modern hull forms' that are actually suitable for cruising, Open Class derived designs do not come to mind and I generally think of IMS type form rigs and hulls, which are low to moderate form stability boats with low VCG's.

Having spent the weekend at the Annapolis Boat show, one thing that impressed me was the wide acceptance and adaptation of the IMS type form amoungst the better quality lines of cruising boats.

I really do not know how many people (besides myself) on this site had a boat that reflected the princles of the IMS typeform.

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