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17-12-2020, 09:41
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Would love to see your short list.
Winter you know, idle time to browse and day dream.
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I don't have a concrete short list yet, but soon I'd love to share here.
Yep, idle time and a lot to figure out, so pretty much day dreaming at the moment.
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17-12-2020, 09:42
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Ten years ago or so the 31' was $400k. I got a bare hull for a tiny fraction of that and was cruising three years and less than $80k later all told.
I did 99% of the work, though.
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Nice.
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17-12-2020, 09:44
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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I don't believe any of them are still manufactured, but I haven't check all 72.
Actually, you really don't need a new one.
I paid $2,000 for my Bristol 27 in 2011, and it's as tough as they come.
Check out the total beast of a keel it has.
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This was very helpful; I agree with you. And the photos are pretty much sailboat porn - so cool!? TY for sharing. Good looking boat!
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17-12-2020, 09:47
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Whoa, this Cape George 34' cutter (long pilothouse) looks great!
Benz, thanks for giving me another site to obsess over
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17-12-2020, 09:53
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...
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17-12-2020, 10:08
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Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by Full
This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...
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Many who buy older full keel boats these days less than 30' in length will many times install a new outboard rather than trust a smelly old diesel.
I have mine on a bracket and it's a Mercury 5 hp 4 stroke 25 " extra long shaft and is about as efficient as a diesel engine. I bought it new in 2011.
James Baldwin, atom voyages website, put a 6 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu in the well his 28' Pearson Triton
https://atomvoyages.com/articles/imp...oard-well.html
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17-12-2020, 13:41
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Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
Boat: Bristol 27
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by Full
This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...
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So when it comes time for you to get a chart plotter you can build you own for about $100 if you already have a Monitor.
Just get a Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 computer and load it with OpenCPN. Then get a USB GPS puck and you will have a chart plotter.
Or you can spend $1500 for one. It's totally up to you and what you enjoy doing......or not doing.
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17-12-2020, 23:25
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by thomm225
Many who buy older full keel boats these days less than 30' in length will many times install a new outboard rather than trust a smelly old diesel.
I have mine on a bracket and it's a Mercury 5 hp 4 stroke 25 " extra long shaft and is about as efficient as a diesel engine. I bought it new in 2011.
James Baldwin, atom voyages website, put a 6 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu in the well his 28' Pearson Triton
https://atomvoyages.com/articles/imp...oard-well.html
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I know it is not very reasonable, but I'm planning to pay extra few thousands and go with a new small diesel, something less than 10hp...
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17-12-2020, 23:25
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by thomm225
So when it comes time for you to get a chart plotter you can build you own for about $100 if you already have a Monitor.
Just get a Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 computer and load it with OpenCPN. Then get a USB GPS puck and you will have a chart plotter.
Or you can spend $1500 for one. It's totally up to you and what you enjoy doing......or not doing.
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I'll go with ur advice on this one.
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18-12-2020, 03:21
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Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by Full
I know it is not very reasonable, but I'm planning to pay extra few thousands and go with a new small diesel, something less than 10hp...
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Well you will have better range for motoring with a 20 gallon or so tank.
I just don't want that much gas on my boat for the outboard.
My boat did have a 10 hp Bukh diesel though. (starter panel is still mounted) Performance was about the same as my 5 hp outboard but the diesel was ancient..... a 1974 that had been on several long cruises the last one being from Massachusetts to Florida/Bahamas and almost back with the PO.
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18-12-2020, 12:56
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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I'll check 'em. TY
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18-12-2020, 12:59
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
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Originally Posted by thomm225
Well you will have better range for motoring with a 20 gallon or so tank.
I just don't want that much gas on my boat for the outboard.
My boat did have a 10 hp Bukh diesel though. (starter panel is still mounted) Performance was about the same as my 5 hp outboard but the diesel was ancient..... a 1974 that had been on several long cruises the last one being from Massachusetts to Florida/Bahamas and almost back with the PO.
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Diesel.
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19-12-2020, 12:11
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Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
One thing I did forget to mention though was that I replaced my 10 hp 352 lb Bukh Diesel with a 58 lb outboard.
I may get a spare when I start cruising full time and possibly carry extra gas in a 5 gallon container on the bow tied down.
But not much more than that.
Here sailing within 100 miles of my marina I usually have 2-4 gallons of gas onboard in separate containers.
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20-12-2020, 07:50
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#45
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Location: Charleston SC
Boat: 1988 Hans Christian 33
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Re: Full Keel Sailboats
I'm super biased, but I love my Hans Christian 33. Regarding full-keeled boats, I've owned an Island Packet 35, a Mason 44 and now this HC33. They were all good boats, but the HC is my favorite of the three.
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