Full Keel Sailboats

[lyl]

Originally Posted by hpeer

Would love to see your short list.

Winter you know, idle time to browse and day dream.

I don't have a concrete short list yet, but soon I'd love to share here.
Yep, idle time and a lot to figure out, so pretty much day dreaming at the moment.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by Benz

Ten years ago or so the 31' was $400k. I got a bare hull for a tiny fraction of that and was cruising three years and less than $80k later all told.
I did 99% of the work, though.

Nice.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

I don't believe any of them are still manufactured, but I haven't check all 72.

Actually, you really don't need a new one.

I paid $2,000 for my Bristol 27 in 2011, and it's as tough as they come.

Check out the total beast of a keel it has.

This was very helpful; I agree with you. And the photos are pretty much sailboat porn - so cool!? TY for sharing. Good looking boat!

[lyl]

Originally Posted by NedX

Whoa, this Cape George 34' cutter (long pilothouse) looks great!

Benz, thanks for giving me another site to obsess over

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

And btw just so you know what an old full keel (cutaway) can do, this guy sailed his old Bristol 27 he bought for $1,000 about 3/4 of the way around the world.

So how much you spend is entirely up to you.

It seems some folks though want to spend lots of money on a boat when you actually don't need to at all.

The same goes for your electronics/instruments if you have some basic computer skills. See link below.

https://towndock.net/shippingnews/se...-and-alexandra

https://svcrystalblues.blogspot.com/...ne-around.html

This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Full

This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...

Many who buy older full keel boats these days less than 30' in length will many times install a new outboard rather than trust a smelly old diesel.

I have mine on a bracket and it's a Mercury 5 hp 4 stroke 25 " extra long shaft and is about as efficient as a diesel engine. I bought it new in 2011.

James Baldwin, atom voyages website, put a 6 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu in the well his 28' Pearson Triton

https://atomvoyages.com/articles/imp...oard-well.html

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Full

This was quite helpful advice. I'll check the links. Actually, I'm pretty good at fixing / building computers and such. But fixing diesel engines - Lots to learn on my end. I'll get there. Anyhow, I've started to think, in the end, I might end up spending only a fraction of what I had been planning to pay. We'll see...

So when it comes time for you to get a chart plotter you can build you own for about $100 if you already have a Monitor.

Just get a Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 computer and load it with OpenCPN. Then get a USB GPS puck and you will have a chart plotter.

Or you can spend $1500 for one. It's totally up to you and what you enjoy doing......or not doing.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Many who buy older full keel boats these days less than 30' in length will many times install a new outboard rather than trust a smelly old diesel.

I have mine on a bracket and it's a Mercury 5 hp 4 stroke 25 " extra long shaft and is about as efficient as a diesel engine. I bought it new in 2011.

James Baldwin, atom voyages website, put a 6 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu in the well his 28' Pearson Triton

https://atomvoyages.com/articles/imp...oard-well.html

I know it is not very reasonable, but I'm planning to pay extra few thousands and go with a new small diesel, something less than 10hp...

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

So when it comes time for you to get a chart plotter you can build you own for about $100 if you already have a Monitor.

Just get a Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 computer and load it with OpenCPN. Then get a USB GPS puck and you will have a chart plotter.

Or you can spend $1500 for one. It's totally up to you and what you enjoy doing......or not doing.

I'll go with ur advice on this one.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Full

I know it is not very reasonable, but I'm planning to pay extra few thousands and go with a new small diesel, something less than 10hp...

Well you will have better range for motoring with a 20 gallon or so tank.

I just don't want that much gas on my boat for the outboard.

My boat did have a 10 hp Bukh diesel though. (starter panel is still mounted) Performance was about the same as my 5 hp outboard but the diesel was ancient..... a 1974 that had been on several long cruises the last one being from Massachusetts to Florida/Bahamas and almost back with the PO.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Full

I'll go with ur advice on this one.

You can also use your laptop with Windows if you have one to try out OpenCPN and use the same GPS USB Puck.

https://opencpn.org/OpenCPN/info/downloadopencpn.html

I did this at home first using my laptop then used it on the boat as my chart plotter and later set up the Raspberry Pi which can be a bit more complicated since the OS is Linux.

My GPS Puck Receiver is something like this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Ex...sr=1-4-catcorr

RPi 4

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products...-pi-4-model-b/

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

You can also use your laptop with Windows if you have one to try out OpenCPN and use the same GPS USB Puck.

https://opencpn.org/OpenCPN/info/downloadopencpn.html

I did this at home first using my laptop then used it on the boat as my chart plotter and later set up the Raspberry Pi which can be a bit more complicated since the OS is Linux.

My GPS Puck Receiver is something like this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Ex...sr=1-4-catcorr

RPi 4

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products...-pi-4-model-b/

I'll check 'em. TY

[lyl]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Well you will have better range for motoring with a 20 gallon or so tank.

I just don't want that much gas on my boat for the outboard.

My boat did have a 10 hp Bukh diesel though. (starter panel is still mounted) Performance was about the same as my 5 hp outboard but the diesel was ancient..... a 1974 that had been on several long cruises the last one being from Massachusetts to Florida/Bahamas and almost back with the PO.

Diesel.

[thomm225]

One thing I did forget to mention though was that I replaced my 10 hp 352 lb Bukh Diesel with a 58 lb outboard.

I may get a spare when I start cruising full time and possibly carry extra gas in a 5 gallon container on the bow tied down.

But not much more than that.

Here sailing within 100 miles of my marina I usually have 2-4 gallons of gas onboard in separate containers.

[Lowcountry]

I'm super biased, but I love my Hans Christian 33. Regarding full-keeled boats, I've owned an Island Packet 35, a Mason 44 and now this HC33. They were all good boats, but the HC is my favorite of the three.