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Old 05-11-2018, 16:17   #1
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From USA to Uruguay

Hi, i really want to buy a sailboat, but my budget is small and the options in my country are really limited. this is the only boat 30-35ft i found ???50k?!?! and i have only 23k.
So im planing to go to USA buy a sailboat, learn to sail samewhere (only sailed a home made kayak-sailboat, but y learn fast and im really good at solving problems (mechanical engenierng student and kind of inventor)) , enjoy few weeks in the caribbean (in the cheapest way possible) and came back home, all this with my 23k.
i have no idea how much time it takes, how dangerous is the atlantic (brasil coast), do i need a heavy keel sailboat?
what boat should i get? this looks good https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...dard%20listing
Could work in USA one month and get some extra 1k or 2k.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:29   #2
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The boat you linked to is on a lake in Vermont. Finding something similar in Florida would shorten your trip (and thus reduce costs) considerably. Watch out for hurricane-damaged boats in Florida. The Atlantic is quite dangerous, especially for the inexperienced. Learning at sea happens 24/7, and some of the lessons can be terminal.
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Old 06-11-2018, 14:16   #3
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My grotesquely inaccurate estimate is 5400 miles.
At a 4knot average that’s 56 days of 24/7 sailing.

The actual distance is much longer.
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Florida over Vermont won't save you any distance as the logical route from the US east coast to Uruguay is going to be: Azores/Canary Islands/Cape Verdes and then back SSW/W, more like 8000 miles than 5400. You will not 'sail' south down the east coast of South America, as the prevailing winds are wrong and the Guyanas Current is running north @ 3+ knots.

Sorry Renzo, but I don't think your plan's going to work.
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Re: From USA to Uruguay

So he looks in different places for his boat, most likely the Med but possibly UK, France, Spain, Portugal or even S Africa. Cape Verde to Brazilnis like 2,000 nm.

A big jump for a newbie for sure.
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How about buying boat from South Africa and sailing her back via St Helena? There is a nice 27' Jenneau for $11,000 US on Gumtree. That gives you plenty left over to get her back to Uruguay. Keep us posted as to what you do.
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Re: From USA to Uruguay

Renzo
If you are at the very beginning of the journey, why don't you get trained and crew with others for the first year or two. You'll get he experience, have the fun, and will find out if you really enjoy the reality of the lifestyle. The answer is not obvious before trying, to any of us.
After a couple of years you will see the world and yourself in a different light. I promise.
Then you can decide what to do.
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Thank you all, some day i will cross the atlantic but not now.
Maybe i should crew, but i have no income if not working. My plan was getting some money back with the boat in airbnb.
how much does it coast in averge to crew if you are a newie? or how much do you spend in food and basics?
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How about buying boat from South Africa and sailing her back via St Helena? There is a nice 27' Jenneau for $11,000 US on Gumtree. That gives you plenty left over to get her back to Uruguay. Keep us posted as to what you do.
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Is aoutopilot needed for long passages?
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Re: From USA to Uruguay

autopilot or wind vane is mandatory.

Autopilot’s use electricity, windvanes dont.

Try reading this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Singlehande.../dp/0713644982
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Is aoutopilot needed for long passages?


It’s easy to say no. There a lot of different ways to make a small boat self steer for a time.

In all practicality an autopilot is essential, whether an electronic/electric pilot or a windvane.

An ocean crossing like this is 3-5 weeks 24 hours a day.

Do you want to steer the entire time?
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Thank you all, some day i will cross the atlantic but not now.
Maybe i should crew, but i have no income if not working. My plan was getting some money back with the boat in airbnb.
how much does it coast in averge to crew if you are a newie? or how much do you spend in food and basics?
Renzo

There is a section on this forum for crewing positions. There is also a section for making a living while cruising. Lots of contributions, lots of examples, and much collective wisdom accrued there for you to form an opinion on the questions you pose above. There are also other crusing and sailing sites on the web, apart from CF.

Do your research man!
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Re: From USA to Uruguay

I myself have never had a sailboat with an autopilot. On most points of sail the typical boat will sail itself relative to the wind when everything is adjusted properly. Usually not so well close hauled, and running downwind you might need to use an arrangement of crossed sheets from two headsails and bungee cords linked to the tiller. On a reach nearly any boat can be made self steering, with the understanding that if the wind changes, the course changes with it. An autopilot is nice but but if you don't already know how to do without one, I would question the wisdom of voyaging to Uruguay from well, anywhere.

Crewing for a couple of years would give you enough experience and knowledge to maybe pull this off. Not all crewing is making long passages. You could start out crewing on racing boats and be home every night and at work Monday morning. Then on vacation maybe make a passage when you can. Race crewing won't cost cost you anything except maybe some beer.

The secret to buying a boat cheap is to first have money ready and quickly accessible, second to be patient and WAIT for a good deal, third to know what what to look for in a boat and what would make make a boat a poor choice, third to develop good contacts in the local yachting community, and fourth be very very very patient. Did I say that twice? I meant to say it three times. Watch for distress sales. Shipyards stuck with a boat that couldn't pay her repair bills. Salvage. Divorce or death related sales, bankruptcy, owner in poor health or going to prison or maybe who recently bought a nicer boat and needs to get rid rid of that one. The good deals usually don't last long.
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