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Old 18-04-2021, 00:45   #121
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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

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A funny confession... Until you brought the O'Day Day Sailer suggestion, I had thought that O'Day Day Sailers had ballast. I've very recently realized that they are centerboard dingies; their ballast has to be the crew. I hope I am still not confused on that. They must still capsize and everything, but not as bad as a Sunfish or a Laser. O'Day Day Sailer must provide a much more 'drier' experience.

You're right; they would make the best trainer for me on the lakes around. If I can start with an O'Day Day Sailer or a similar design, then I can even skip the 'Catalina 22 phase' when I move by the ocean; after a couple of classes, I can start shopping for a 27 - 32 ft sailboat.
A Flying Scot is a stable extremely hard to capsize centerboard boat as well. There's about 100 lbs of lead in the bottom of the centerboard, and the hull shape provides lots of stability.
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Old 23-04-2021, 13:17   #122
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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

Opinions? https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/40084

It's a little far; I'll have to rent a truck and drive an hour or two. What do you folks think? Worth the drive?
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Old 23-04-2021, 13:49   #123
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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

full, it looks fine, BUT seems not to be sloop rigged... ie mainsail only. Perhaps I misconstrue what he says and what I see, but that's how it looks to me.

Is that OK with you? A sloop would be better IMO...

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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

Hey Full,

How old are you?

What kind of shape are you in?

Do you enjoy getting wet?

Many on here like to put their sailor suit on with their shirt tucked and go for a sail so you have to understand who you might be talking to .....oh and don't forget the Captain's Hat.

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Old 23-04-2021, 14:23   #125
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full, it looks fine, BUT seems not to be sloop rigged... ie mainsail only. Perhaps I misconstrue what he says and what I see, but that's how it looks to me.

Is that OK with you? A sloop would be better IMO...

Jim
It's listed as fractional sloop. In the add, the owner wrote, "...includes a main sail, roller furling jib......Ready to sail today!"

Is it the same boat with this? https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/gl...er-18-whitecap
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Old 23-04-2021, 14:35   #126
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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

Yep, that's the one. The nice thing about that one is you can take a friend or two and it has a hiking strap so you and your friends can try that too for extra fun and speed. You hook your feet under it and lean way out.
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Old 23-04-2021, 14:52   #127
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Re: Fin keel or Full keel...

I would say it a good choice for a first boat. A Fractional Sloop is fine, roller furling Jib even better as you will also learn that skill set. Do you have anyone who knows about sailboats that you can take along? Just someone who could check you are getting all the parts needed for actually sailing it and also do some basic checks on the hull and fittings integrity. Also check out the trailer, especially the wheel bearings and tires before you take it on the road to get it home. Good luck and happy sailing!
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Old 23-04-2021, 15:47   #128
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It's listed as fractional sloop. In the add, the owner wrote, "...includes a main sail, roller furling jib......Ready to sail today!"

Is it the same boat with this? https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/gl...er-18-whitecap
OOps! Faulty reading by me... somehow missed the bit about the furling jib, and didn't see any jib sheet hardware, and jumped to a wrong conclusion.

Sorry for the mistake, Full, and now reckon that would be a perfectly decent starter boat for you, and at a reasonable price (which you will likely be able to recover when you move up)

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Old 24-04-2021, 10:43   #129
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Thanks everyone. I think this will be the one.
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Old 24-04-2021, 16:31   #130
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Thanks everyone. I think this will be the one.
Woo-Hoo!! good luck and enjoy her when she's finally yours.

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Old 26-04-2021, 11:38   #131
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Both... I loved my J-30 for banging around the cans and she handled herself well on day crossings but my new/old rebuilt baba 40 would be what I want under my arse for any real offshore stuff :-)
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Both... I loved my J-30 for banging around the cans and she handled herself well on day crossings but my new/old rebuilt baba 40 would be what I want under my arse for any real offshore stuff :-)
The J-30 is a fantastic boat. I loved the one I sailed for a few seasons. Perfect size, and with the tiller, that rig, that build, so easy to ghost all the other similarly sized boats. Climbs upwind like a mountain goat. She got tossed over the seawall onto a parking lot in a nor'easter. Ah well.
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Never woulda happened if she had had a full keel, right?

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Never woulda happened if she had had a full keel, right?

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Never.

I asked her, in J-speak.

Wood yew ev dun deese eef yewed bin uh foal kill

Nae, she answered. Fida bin a foal kill Ida soirvoived, yeah

So it goes. So it goes, yeah.
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The J-30 is a fantastic boat. I loved the one I sailed for a few seasons. Perfect size, and with the tiller, that rig, that build, so easy to ghost all the other similarly sized boats. Climbs upwind like a mountain goat. She got tossed over the seawall onto a parking lot in a nor'easter. Ah well.
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