Fin keel or Full keel...

[thomm225]

I think many of us like our old full keel/long keel sailboats not only because they are very seaworthy, but also because they have the look of sailboats we saw as kids.

And for a very small investment, you can go sailing pretty much where ever you want.

[DMF Sailing]

Originally Posted by Paul L

The story of the two J-30s that survived the Fastnet disaster
https://www.jboats.com/j30-articles-...tnet-storm/amp

Wow. Not surprised, though.

I love the story about the coffee stains.

[Fullbore]

Thomm225,

Beautiful Bristol. (Reminds me of Pearson Triton I had decades ago on Lake Superior.)

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by thomm225

And for a very small investment, you can go sailing pretty much where ever you want.

THAT is one of the greatest virtues of one of our old, sweet boats.

[lyl]

The seller doesn't return my emails. Possibly, the boat has already been sold. Well, I'll find something else then.

[lyl]

At the moment, the poll says 44 to 32 in favor of full keels over fin keels. I don't know how to interpret the results. If the manufacturers were to built new full keels, would the market buy them...? I think people have voted for full keels considering the used sailboat market. Despite the reasons lying under the votes, I believe the members of Cruisersforum have said their word.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Fullbore

Thomm225,

Beautiful Bristol. (Reminds me of Pearson Triton I had decades ago on Lake Superior.)

Yeah, that Blue Bristol 27 is a nice looking boat, but it isn't mine.

I was looking at it because when I get my rigging replaced I'll have them center the mast. At this time the mast is actually tilted forward a bit so when they set it up properly, I'll have to move my boom up a bit more to clear the dodger which is easy enough, but I hate moving it up too high.

So I was looking at the Blue Bristol which just has the original stock setup with the boom in it's original position.

Mine at this time is probably 8"-10" higher than original setting. The boom has a floating goose neck so no problem really......

[Fullbore]

Originally Posted by thomm225

... when I get my rigging replaced I'll have them center the mast. At this time the mast is actually tilted forward a bit so when they set it up properly, I'll have to move my boom up a bit more to clear the dodger which is easy enough, but I hate moving it up too high.
....

Watch for change in balance, weather helm?

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Fullbore

Watch for change in balance, weather helm?

Yeah that's possible that it will have a bit more weather helm, but I don't like the mast tilted forward. Plus my jib is getting old so I could buy one that is a bit larger. Mine is like a 110-120% plus a 90%.

I'd actually like to get a mainsail with a shorter foot also but my main is still in good shape and it's 8 oz. If Bacon Sails happens to get one in though that would fit, I might buy it.

I at least want it straight up, but I usually always had my masts raked back some but I was racing then.

Nothing is going to help this boat with pointing I don't think. Raking the mast back would help but the difference wouldn't be worth it

[coopec43]

Give me an Vintage Alden design!!




I thought the S & S yachts were fine but now they are too extreme. I suppose because yachts are built to a budget and finned keel yachts are cheaper to build.


Keel failure summary

Keels A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T 1 Keel Failure ...

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XLS

[lyl]

A strange poll result. I bet if there were full keels all over the new sailboat market, nobody voted here would be interested in them.

I used to be a huge full keel supporter. I was pretty much parroting what I had read and heard - all hearsay info based on zero experience. After all said and done, I would go against my vote and pick a fin keel eventually.

My path will start with a Day Sailer. After mastering that, I want a Catalina 22 Capri. And eventually, something like Sun Odyssey 349 with classic mast and deep keel. Fin w/bulb & dual rudders and Fractional Sloop started to make more sense to me as I learn more.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Full

I used to be a huge full keel supporter. I was pretty much parroting what I had read and heard - all hearsay info based on zero experience. After all said and done, I would go against my vote and pick a fin keel eventually.

Guess you better change your name CF .

Originally Posted by Full

My path will start with a Day Sailer. After mastering that, I want a Catalina 22 Capri. And eventually, something like Sun Odyssey 349 with classic mast and deep keel. Fin w/bulb & dual rudders and Fractional Sloop started to make more sense to me as I learn more.

It is a strange result. I don't believe it is anywhere near reflective of reality. I've encountered very few boats that are true full keels. Mine always stands out in any yard I've hauled out in.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Full

something like Sun Odyssey 349 with classic mast and deep keel. Fin w/bulb & dual rudders and Fractional Sloop started to make more sense to me as I learn more.

Great till you have to manouver in a tight marina on a windy day, that was when on a delivery of an Oceanis 331 with twin rudders I was very relieved the previous owner had installed a bow thruster.. rudders had next to no control at low speed under power.
And in a really strong wind even the thrusters no help.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

It is a strange result. I don't believe it is anywhere near reflective of reality. I've encountered very few boats that are true full keels. Mine always stands out in any yard I've hauled out in.

Mike,

How much did you pay for your good looking boat?

[lyl]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Great till you have to manouver in a tight marina on a windy day, that was when on a delivery of an Oceanis 331 with twin rudders I was very relieved the previous owner had installed a bow thruster.. rudders had next to no control at low speed under power.
And in a really strong wind even the thrusters no help.

Wow! That I didn't know, Sir. By the time, my opinion surely will change anyway!? At the moment, I'm pretty keen about the Day Sailer and Catalina 22 steps - Actually, still looking for a Day Sailer. I'm about to miss the season; I'm pretty disappointed with myself for not acting earlier.