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27-08-2014, 13:54
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Registered User
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
I play the mental "what if I won the lottery" thing a lot. My votes for the boat (for a couple) are:
Morris 48GT/52RS
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Now that's what I am talking about! [Drool]
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27-08-2014, 13:58
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#32
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by Macblaze
Now that's what I am talking about! [Drool]
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ah the Morris 52RS, you have a good eye
maybe a lighter color on the finish for me though
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27-08-2014, 14:01
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#33
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Home at Warsaw, Poland, boat in Eastern Med
Boat: Ocean Star 56.1 LR
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macblaze
Now that's what I am talking about!
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Oh, really???
So have a look at this one:
Friendship 75 Photo Gallery
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27-08-2014, 14:28
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#34
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky
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Way too many beds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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27-08-2014, 14:34
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Home at Warsaw, Poland, boat in Eastern Med
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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27-08-2014, 14:39
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#36
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CLOD
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky
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all I was looking at were the number of pictures of beds
but I can count to six normally as long as there is a pak of beer around
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27-08-2014, 14:43
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
all I was looking at were the number of pictures of beds
but I can count to six normally as long as there is a pak of beer around
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Great idea!!!
We can both learn to count up to dozen, we just need a box of good whisky
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27-08-2014, 14:45
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#38
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Moderator
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
By the way - is this glossy dark finish really popular in US, or it is only matter of tradition in presentation.
For me such interiors are depressing...
But I can accept it is the way to show the abilities of shipwrights.
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27-08-2014, 15:47
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#39
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
Mac,
Before I read the text of your post, just reading the title, my answer was a Hinckley SW-52....(or a Bermuda 50!)
After reading that you only wanted a boat in the "35'-45' range", I'd say a Hinckley SW-42 / Hinckley Competition 42....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macblaze
So, given I dream of a brand new monohull sailboat (I will save the cat for when I'm older), don't need to win races, and am looking for extreme luxury for 2-3 people in the 35-45 foot range, just who are the Manufacturers I should be drooling over?
Indulge me...
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But, regardless of size, there really is no comparison....
The answer is Hinckley....hand's down!!
Hinckley - SW52 Gallery
http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/pdfs/H...l-Brochure.pdf
http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/Hinckl...kley_video.php
Morris Yachts, are a very close second place!!
(Swans are nice, and yes they are well-built and luxurious...and Oysters come close to the Swans....but neither quite makes it to the "Hinckley" level...)
FYI, this subject comes up once-in-a-while....have a look at my post #7, in this thread here...
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...end-62929.html
But, should your lotto fantasy come through....be aware that on the Hinckley's, you'll need a maintenance crew to polish everything daily, and touch-up the gorgeous brightwork every week...(have you ever seen 30- 40 coats of gloss spar varnish on the cockpit coaming?? I have, I grew up sailing on my parents' Hinckley and spent many an hour polishing, etc...NOT fun..)
I wish you good luck...and fair winds...
John
s/v Annie Laurie
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27-08-2014, 15:56
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
Jonque De Plaisence.... That would be worth paying in the millions to me.
Sent from my C5215 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
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27-08-2014, 21:41
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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27-08-2014, 21:59
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
Still dreaming small and focussing primarily on American manufacturers. Think big, dream European make and custom design. American design is primarily dated, dark and old school. European is sleek, new lighter colors with a desire to see out and bring the outdoor view inside.
People these days want new, modern design, and a boat which is more like a floating luxury villa with changing waterfront views.... they don't want to sit in grandma's dark basement kitchen.
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28-08-2014, 02:08
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Still dreaming small and focussing primarily on American manufacturers. Think big, dream European make and custom design. American design is primarily dated, dark and old school. European is sleek, new lighter colors with a desire to see out and bring the outdoor view inside.
People these days want new, modern design, and a boat which is more like a floating luxury villa with changing waterfront views.... they don't want to sit in grandma's dark basement kitchen.
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My interest is in boats I would want to cross an ocean on, good sea boats, the majority of sailboats are not suited for that purpose IMHO. For a couple to sail the yacht it doesn't make much sense to go over 64' and most would say 50' max. Going to sea on a boat with high design but low function isn't my idea of fun. I think people who are interested in voyaging are more interested in function than form.
http://www.shannonyachts.com/Offshore%20Issues.pdf
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28-08-2014, 02:52
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
A person who just came into 34 million, would be more interested in big and luxurious. Their crew would do the crossings while they enjoyed doing something else, then they would jet to where the boat is.... Or they'd have it shipped.
Or, for 34 million you could have four enormous Sunreef 70ft catamarans stationed in all four corners of the world and take your pick of where you want to be at any given time.... Two in the Southern Hemisphere and two in the northern, for an endless summer with staff waiting on you.
I assure you, no 34 millionaire is going to be dogging around in some dark, cramped, dated looking, shinny tank of a boat. At least... I've never met one.
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28-08-2014, 03:49
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Moderator
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Re: Fantasy Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenomac
A person who just came into 34 million, would be more interested in big and luxurious. Their crew would do the crossings while they enjoyed doing something else, then they would jet to where the boat is.... Or they'd have it shipped.
Or, for 34 million you could have four enormous Sunreef 70ft catamarans stationed in all four corners of the world and take your pick of where you want to be at any given time.... Two in the Southern Hemisphere and two in the northern, for an endless summer with staff waiting on you.
I assure you, no 34 millionaire is going to be dogging around in some dark, cramped, dated looking, shinny tank of a boat. At least... I've never met one.
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Hi, Ken
Some time ago I discussed the yacht market with two guys (separately)
One is the owner of the yard building upscale cruisers, second is chief of sales for even more renowned brand
Both told me that their customers are ready to invest about 10 % of their overall assets in the yacht. Sometime as little as 5 %, sometime as much as 15 % (for very keen sailors) but 10 % is a rule of thumb.
So - if we are starting with 34 millions, we have a price bracket between 1.7 - 5.1 millions (US dollars) and looking for real cruiser, really luxurious and sailable by the couple
Here are some examples...
All nice boats, aren't they?
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