does this boat sounds good?

[sailpower]

Originally Posted by greybeardloon

That's Laura Dekker's boat, the Guppy. Didn't realise she was selling it. Pretty famous- not sure if you knew..

https://youtu.be/n1oF0B3PI64

Yes, that's why I posted it.

Good bones for another RTW not that the OP is likely to be doing one any time soon.

That's her in the cockpit.

Cheers.

[Jim Cate]

Good advice from Chinook, so pay attention!

Jim

[JPA Cate]

Just one small note: I saw that the holding tank is stainless steel. That would appear at first glance to be very reactive to urine and fecal matter. Therefore, I would expect to replace it.

Another note: Most likely all the seacocks need to be replaced.

Yet another one: Deal is off if the boat has ever been grounded. If you and your husband don't know how to check for this, don't buy it. Mostly some grounding is inevitable when you cruise, if you're lucky, it's all on soft bottoms. An old thread here, Google on the Cheeky Rafiki thread, it will show you what can happen with these liner-built boats.

The batteries are DieHards, from Sears, not good enough for your needs. (I'm a long term cruiser).

Age and condition of sails matters; you can have the engine oil analysed, and that will give you some idea of the condition of the engine.

You will, if they are available to you, hire a surveyor, but they vary, like all other people, and the less you know, the more vulnerable you are to a kindly smiling person, who, unfortunately, may not be knowledgeable.

Something else, wait till the currently 1 yr. old is 3 or so, and toilet trained. Your life will be easier.

Ann

[Dave22q]

Think more like 30-50% of your budget for surprises, refit and upgrades. Novices with 2 toddlers think 28-30' for ease of handling, space will be a greater concern when they are older but you will be more experienced. However, you may not be able to afford to upgrade unless you save some now. Start out day sailing for a year or two. You are a long way from crossing oceans.
Per your question; this boat is absolutely wrong for you at this time.

[barnakiel]

What you want is 100% doable, except you are not buying a 1999 42' Jeanneau for that. With your budget, you are possibly buying quite a different boat, and a much smaller too.

Having small children is a huge challenge as you will be basically one solo sailor (this is super hard) and one child care. Both will get very tired at times and sometimes both at the same time.

If you are in Brazil, you may opt for buying a boat in the Caribbean and spending a year or two there before you venture further off - kids will be bigger, you will be better prepared and you will have a good test ground to see how the dream matches the reality.

Cheers,
b.

[thomm225]

Lets see, you are a beginner and you want to buy a new (to you) boat and sail RTW with two little kids. Right? Really?

It may be a better idea to buy a smaller boat and sail locally for a while with you being the Captain/Skipper.

You might not even enjoy being anchored for one night at a bad anchorage.

You may find it gets boring after a few months

There are a lot of ifs in sailing and boats and abilities.

Can you blow chunks for example and then continue to free up a jammed roller furler when it's blowing hard? (then have a beer to celebrate after getting back into your creek)

[tuffr2]

Agree with Thomm...being on a boat is not all fun and games. Think of it as working to survive. Lots of things need to be done to keep the darn thing floating. The default is it will sink.

What if the kids do not like it? Wife may not like going thru a common thunder storm.

It would be easier to buy a camper and travel on land.

[TrentePieds]

You guys are just trying to scare our Brazilian Friend. And I hope for her sake, and that of her husband and kiddies, that you succeed :-)!


Jferline: You've had to take a cold shower as a result of your query. Please be assured that none of it has been meant to disparage you, your family or you dream. On the contrary. What the shellbacks have told you is all true, and it has been said out of concern for your wellfare.

We all started with a blank slate, but for most of us that was many, many years ago, and what we've learned over the years is all yours for the asking. So stick around. Most of us had to put up with some blunt talk along the way :-)!

TP

[CareKnot]

Hi Jferline,

Let me start out with the positive. What you propose to do is very doable. Not only that, many have done it before you. You have also been given some very good advice in this thread.

I am an old man now, although in good physical condition. In the 1980s I was a tornado class catamaran sailor that also was crew on a 36-foot Portman and a 44 foot CSY​. I have no idea how many miles I have logged in the 20-plus years that I sailed. But I have sailed in everything from the doldrums to hurricanes.

Recently I bought a 32 foot Endeavor sailboat and embarked on a 1700 mile coastal delivery. The boat had been neglected and required numerous mechanical repairs and constant maintenance during this voyage. Having traveled a thousand miles at this point, I came to a startling conclusion. It wasn't the boat that needed testing. It was me. Even with my considerable experience, I still had a lot to learn.

I hired an experienced crewman; a 40 year old United States Coast Guard machinist mate turned delivery captain. Yet I still faced some of the most demanding experiences of my life. The next 700 miles will be through some of the most dangerous water on the planet. Experience does not erase the fear of the unknown. It's simply reduces the unknown by small degrees.

Now for the negatives. There is no boat, no matter how well-designed or equipped, that will substitute for experience. You and your family have not been tested.

My suggestion is to get some experience and instruction. Get a bargain boat from someone who has scared the hell out of themselves. Sail it. Work on it. Fix it up. Study. Learn. Test yourself in difficult circumstances. Then decide what your next step should be. You owe that to your children, your husband and to yourself.

Some very caring people have given you some great advice here. Consider it carefully. That said, I wish you all the best.

[thruska]

Originally Posted by nortonscove

Since about 1980s there are no mass production boats which were made to the offshore standards from the factory. All pretty much have to be beefed up (at considerable cost) one way or another before they can be taken RTW for any prolonged periods of time. I'm not talking about small batch builds but the mass produced ones of which Jeanneau is one. And that is especially true if the particular model run was initially built for the charter fleets even if the one for sale was always in non charter use.

Wow. Didn't take long for the newbie to get hit with the BS.

Let's just tell them to go buy a cave because this would lead me to believe that the poster is an advocate for the outdated and equally as dark and dated crowd.

I like my piece of junk production boat for all the things purist don't like. First is the space and comfort...may I add that this applies at sea as well as the dock. Second is ease of handling with a furling main. And finally the price was good for me and allowed me to offer my family and environment we could tolerate over weeks of sailing.

But then I'm only sailing in northeastern Newfoundland ando not on some challenging milk run.

If the boat works for you buy it. DON'T leave immediately but leave to sail and trust the boat. You'll also know what you need and want for your ultimate trip.

Be careful sir, these are newbies with two young children. Just sending them off with there best intentions is foolish at any rate on a circumnavigation!
This boat specs says last serviced in 2015 and last bottom paint 2015. Barrier coat? N/a? Tackle is lacking. Systems is lacking. No davits no dingy. I'd be wary at 45k, I'd be thinking she was a dock queen without walking the deck and snifffing the galley. Serviced every6 mos? What's that mean ? Burger proof? One flick of an ax burglerproof ? Hauled annually?
Only a fool would jump in this boat and sail off....

To op, is this the boat in Trinidad?

[JPA Cate]

Something else not mentioned is a dodger. The protection sure is important to me!.

Ann

[thruska]

Originally Posted by sailpower

This one has some gear.


http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/57655

Professionally extended? Professionally brokered.... professional sailed
Sorry it's the cynic in me today.

[TrentePieds]

Well... cynics unite!

Unfortunately this OP doesn't seem to be WANTING to pay attention. She has several other threads where, like the tongue seeking the bad tooth, she keeps coming back to this particular boat she has been warned against.

MyBeloved spent her career as an Early Childhood Educator. Infants and Toddlers. Effectually spending 30 years dealing with the diapers of other people's infants. AFTER they had been filled. There is a special place in Heaven for people who can do that :-)! HER comment on the OP's query was succinct enuff: "Not with a one-year-old, they can't!!"

TP